Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1801

kow · 07/14/11, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by daltonj2012

Alright, so I'm DW and I'm at 851. I'm good then? Just a little over, which I can go change now that I know. Thanks for the help.

You're a lot over. What he's saying is that you can drop the additional 250 (to get down to 601), because those 250 rating points would be better spent in haste or mastery. Otherwise, the only reason to be spell hit-capped would be if there was some spell that would be disastrous to miss. The only ones you have that I can think of that fit the bill are interrupts and in some rare instances a taunt, and neither of those can miss. Outbreak missing is a pain in the ass, but it's only a DPS loss, and it's not enough of one to justify the 200+ rating loss.

Ataxus · 07/14/11, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by wyrmsbane

This is actually completely incorrect - A mage in our guild got his 4p the other day and upon testing it, his 4stack AB cost was reduced by 600 some mana (exactly 10% of the cost of a 4 stack). Arcane power only increases the cost of AB by 10% of the Base spells cost (10% of 870(a 0 stacked ab) = 87). So a normally 4 stacked AB with arcane power up costs 6177 mana instead of 6090 according to my tooltip and tests done on a dummy.

However, once you add in the 4p, that base 87 mana increase is REMOVED and then the final cost of arcane blast is reduced by 10%. So at a 4 stack AB costing 6090 Mana, the t12 4set makes it only cost 5400 while arcane power is active.

This is very good news! I'm glad they changed it.

Drainar · 07/14/11, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by Nickcraft

Is their a specific reason why it seems a lot of Demonology locks are picking the Corruption glyph over the Incinerate glyph as the original posting?

When you read a few posts back, you can see that it is indeed a dps increase in most encounters.

Swagsurfer · 07/14/11, 6:09 PM

Hey. I used to aim for haste as the prime stat for holy, besides int and spirit ofc, but after 4.2 and the crit buff etc, whats the stat order now?

undenth · 07/14/11, 6:09 PM

Dear elitist jerks,

My mage his name is Yumad and im having problems on the meters. My burst damage on 1 try is 60k and the other try barely 30k.

Also after my burst my dps drops insanly from 60k burst i manage to drop to 20k dps or even lower.

My logs World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Hope you can help me

zapzorz · 07/14/11, 8:07 PM

hi there elitist jerks,

I'm a fire-mage named Zapzorz (Emerald Dream EU) who is in kind of a pickle.
I am trying to make my loot wishlist for Firelands and my problem is, how nice is the 4 set bonus? I keep reading different things (2 set bonus is worth it rest isn't, T11 till you can get T12HC to get T12 ASAP).
can you shed any light on this? I also added my armory link at the bottom.

thanks in advance.

greetings zapzorz

Zapzorz @ Emerald Dream - Game - World of Warcraft

Gulvak · 07/14/11, 8:41 PM

Man I totally misread your post. I thought you meant Blood and Thunder instead of Battle Trance.

Anyway I've switched to Arms just to try it out for my offspec, and since Frost DKs were taking all my one handers. I rarely get a chance to DPS but wanted to try it. It is a lot different on the dummy, I pull like 18k where in fury I'd strain for 15k. However I haven't gotten chances to try it on bosses. Maybe if I had more chances to DPS I'd have a better idea.

eirohir · 07/14/11, 8:45 PM

Hey,

I'm not a great healer, but im not very proud either i can ask for help when i need it, and i really need it.

First of all i know that hps isnt the dogs nuts, if there is a kill people are generally happy, and i am too, but i have noticed that since patch, with a crit increase and mastery buff, i have dropped to last position on the healing meters, and honestly i cant figure out why.

I've put all i can into haste and spirit, and i use HL ALOT along with other spells as needed, i want to say ty in advance for checking this thread out, and if there is something i missed, i would like it thrown in my face with great vengence and furious anger

I just cant figure out how i went from 1-2nd, to 7-8th on the healing meter, cuz im stumped and its come the forums for some professional analisis.

So here's my wol file for my last raid, whats missing, and why the hell aren't i doing as much healing done, as the other healers anymore?

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=52498

and here is my armory sheet,

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eaper/advanced

Thing is there are other paladins out there doing alot more with alot less, and they all seem to have different styles of healing, and are doing alot more actual healing (inc HPS) and i would like to know what, if anything am i doing wrong, and / or any tips or advise for healing as a paladin that might bring my numbers up.

Also, i read alot on EJ, but it seems they nor anyone else have updated pages on holy palas for 4.2, which leads me to belive that nothing has really changed, and i do in fact just really suck at healing.

Thanks for reading

Balbus · 07/14/11, 10:54 PM

Thank you. I am simply blind.

daltonj2012 · 07/15/11, 1:00 AM

As a DW Death Knight how much hit do I need. I am confused as to if I need to only get Melee hit capped at 8% or if I need to also get Spell Hit capped.

Winwood · 07/15/11, 6:08 AM

Hi - I'm in a guild that doesn't raid, but I still like to get best gear I can

As of 4.2 there really only seems one option - [Lightforged Elementium Hammer]

(I don't PVP either)

But - I have also spotted a nice BOE dps item - [Volcanospike]

Obviously its a dps piece, and you'd reforge the hit to spirit

Given the extra Int/SP (and haste), is this as big an upgrade as it looks? One worth whatever crazy price this will turn up for!?

Are there any other options?

Thanks!

Dulkinis · 07/15/11, 7:34 AM

Ofc it refreshes why it wouldnt?

Dulkinis · 07/15/11, 7:40 AM

@ Hamlet
so I'm basically right: If I'm healing tanks i would go for crit over mastery keeping mastery at average percentage.
And I'f I'm mostly raid healing I should favor mastery all the way cuz as you mentioned with current tier items and raid buffs we still be with about ~25% crit?

Turanduban · 07/15/11, 8:49 AM

Originally Posted by Anorek

I saw at the start for single target rotation, UD/non UD, there are two versions of each. I might have missed that part, but does that depend on some situation?

Due to the fact that exo crits always on undead, it makes it superior so therefore the reason why the rotation is slightly diffrent.

hyuuga · 07/15/11, 9:34 AM

I'm in doubt, and maybe someone could get me out of this doubt, with 4pc, it is more worthwhile to continue as arcane or fire play, with the greatest of pyro proc is not worth to be re-fire? or absurdly arcane will still be better as it is today