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Old 05/20/09, 3:22 PM   #4501
Woofermazing
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Dalaran
<3 the new innervate. I was finally not useless half way through a hard mode!

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Old 05/20/09, 4:14 PM   #4502
nilgambor
Banned
 
Undead Rogue
 
Shattrath (EU)
I'am playing now in hybrid spec like this:Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Does it really inferior to 15/51/5 with fist/dagger?

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Old 05/20/09, 4:17 PM   #4503
Majingshi
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Steamwheedle Cartel
HFB+SS+Maces/Swords

Thoughts? I don't see why it wouldn't be viable. (Unless you are hung up on armor pen for maces and double swings for swords)

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

SS to 4 combo points 50% of the time. Easy rotation. Easy energy management. Could tweak later on for Improved rupture for 4 PC tier 8 (Rupture Crits).

The negative side to the build is -35% reduction in SS damage. You however Gain 18% (with glyph) from hfb. Net -17% damage for SS.

The positive side in conjunction with the one listed above, is after a finisher (In this case envenom or rupture), you have a 60% chance to start of with a combo point. Possible to easily have 5 combo points to envenom/rupture. Possibly a mass envenom spec?

I did a rough calculation with the dps simulation, and it was about -100dps. This could also be because I'm not as familiar for the combo rotation imput. Thats not to say in a real setting that it wouldn't match/out dps hfb mut.

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Old 05/20/09, 6:08 PM   #4504
bulk0w
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Mazrigos (EU)
3.1.2 Blood Tank build/rotation/spec

Which is currently the best build for blood tanking right now? And which is rotation and best glyph combination?

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Old 05/20/09, 6:54 PM   #4505
Denji
Banned
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Misha
Hey guys i am unholy dps but i need to know what i have to do to get the best dps i can get with my gear i need help with gems and enchants and a rotation also here is my armory



Armory
The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 05/20/09, 7:01 PM   #4506
Störm
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Azshara
Question

For the Option two spec is it still viable to use Glyph of water shield for the extra mana, or is glyph of chain heal too valuable to lose?

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Old 05/20/09, 8:04 PM   #4507
Nyutu
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Sanguino (EU)
First of all sorry for my english, and sorry for the rant.

Isn't it a bit unfair that they didn't change the ulduar 10 weapons?

My clan only raids 10 man, we are about 12-15 friends and have no interest in getting more people to raid 25 as the content in 10 is quite interesting. I sometimes do naxx25 pugged and some others of the guild do it, but most of the the people doesnt care to pug.

But I do care about dps, I try to min/max everything and try to do the best I can looking at this forum.

We downed yogg 2 days ago so we are doing quite well (5th clan on my server to do so, and 1st 10man clan to do it in the server with only naxx10 / ulduar 10 equipment in most of the people -I have some pieces from naxx25 pugged-). We even had a hunter alter with blues/heroics/naxx10 equipment for the first kill because a main char didnt came :P

I dont see it fair that I have to stuck with not getting an upgrade to my avalanche bow, just because I like to raid 10 man better and a guy that just downed kologarn in ulduar 25 (that could mean killing flame leviathan, deconstructor and kolrogan) and not even one watcher have a gun that is almost 150 dps better than mine, when usually the difference between 10 and 25 ranged weapons were like 50-60 dps difference.

Even if I get the weapon from yoggsaron the weapon of kolrogan 25 will totally pwn it and so does the weapon from kel 25. When it was until today just a minor difference between them.

Not seeing how downing a 10 man yogg doesn't deserve what killing those bosses does. I dont ask them to be better but just keep the difference the same it was in naxxramas and ulduar until today.

Also focusing ourselves in Hard-Mode XT-deconstructor is not an option right now at least for the gm, because it could gimp us stopping in the 3rd boss and wiping just to get my gun and not equiping everyone cleaning full ulduar10. You know that hard-mode is in the middle It isn't like iron council that you can let them there, and do some hard mode trys in the week when you dont have anything else to do.

Sorry for the QQ but cant post at the US forums where ghostcrawler posted, and posting it here could be a good way to discuss.

Thanks for the attention.

Last edited by Nyutu : 05/20/09 at 10:16 PM.

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Old 05/20/09, 8:28 PM   #4508
hawklol
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Denji View Post
Hey guys i am unholy dps but i need to know what i have to do to get the best dps i can get with my gear i need help with gems and enchants and a rotation also here is my armory



Armory
The World of Warcraft Armory
first off, from the looks of it, your hit rating is far too high, start off by switching all your gems to bold scarlet ruby (+ 16 strength) and your meta gem to chaotic skyflare diamond (+21 critical strike rating + 3% increased critical damage). Please note: the gems you need to activate your meta gem, as far as that goes, since you are not a jewelcrafter, make sure you put in the required gems ( sovereign twilight opal)x2. As well, raising your sons of hodir and ebon blade reputation to exalted is pertinent for the pve shoulder enchant + head enchant. As far as your other enchants go, enchant bracers - greater assault is what you are looking for on your bracers (+50 attack power) and change your cloak enchant to enchant cloak - greater speed(+23 haste rating).

Last edited by hawklol : 05/20/09 at 8:41 PM.

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Old 05/20/09, 8:36 PM   #4509
Lowdown
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Boulderfist
Hey guys question. Is combat fist lower in dps against mutilate in raids? Cause Iam having trouble w/ my dps in the fights and Im thinking is it my gear or my buffs or my rotation cause its just 2snd-5rupture then try 5evis. Iam using my cooldowns at the wrong time or what.

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Old 05/20/09, 8:49 PM   #4510
Denji
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Draenei Death Knight
 
Misha
Originally Posted by hawklol View Post
first off, from the looks of it, your hit rating is far too high, start off by switching all your gems to bold scarlet ruby (+ 16 strength) and your meta gem to chaotic skyflare diamond (+21 critical strike rating + 3% increased critical damage). Please note: the gems you need to activate your meta gem, as far as that goes, since you are not a jewelcrafter, make sure you put in the required gems ( sovereign twilight opal)x2. As well, raising your sons of hodir and ebon blade reputation to exalted is pertinent for the pve shoulder enchant + head enchant. As far as your other enchants go, enchant bracers - greater assault is what you are looking for on your bracers (+50 attack power) and change your cloak enchant to enchant cloak - greater speed(+23 haste rating).
Hey ty for the help =D any good rotation?? i got this one
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Scourge Strike, Blood Strike, Blood Strike, Death Coil, Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Ghoul Frenzy

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Old 05/20/09, 9:00 PM   #4511
hawklol
Glass Joe
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Alterac Mountains
Originally Posted by Denji View Post
Hey ty for the help =D any good rotation?? i got this one
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Scourge Strike, Blood Strike, Blood Strike, Death Coil, Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Scourge Strike, Scourge Strike, Death Coil, Ghoul Frenzy
The optimal rotation is: plague strike, icy touch, blood strike, blood strike, scourge strike, unholy blight, scourge strike, scourge strike, scourge strike, rune dump

In terms of ghoul frenzy that should be used with blood taps along with bone armor because it tends to mess up a rotation.

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Old 05/20/09, 9:13 PM   #4512
Baako
Glass Joe
 
Baako
Orc Warlock
 
Barthilas
I dont have Blacklash at the mo with my spec as i need 3 points in suppression.

I cant put up my current spec as im at work na dmost sites are blocked.

Ill play around with the calculator when i get home to try and find somthing that can work for me.

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Old 05/20/09, 9:33 PM   #4513
Wagimus
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Stormscale
So i am mutilate specced and currently have 13 points in combat. Should I pull 6 points out of combat to get down to serrated blades in subtlety. BTW I'm sure it will help to let you all know I have 301 in hit.

Also, should I take my 3 points out of Turn the Tables and put it in Master Poisoner?

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Old 05/20/09, 9:34 PM   #4514
Nilegard
 
Undead Warlock
 
Sylvanas (EU)
Has anyone calculated the dps value of 4t8 bonus for 0/13/58 spec yet? Im wondering if losing 2 parts for better stats would provide any greater good.

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Old 05/20/09, 9:43 PM   #4515
Kémp
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Sylvanas (EU)
Hey everyone, im watchin forum for ages however, never rly posted Got one question now, been reading some topics and posts here, and since i got 4 pieces of t8.5 i decided to tryout new build wich Aldriana suggested - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
My question here is, wouldnt be better to move that 2 points from precision into master poisoner(or even master poisoner 3/3 and 2/3 turn the tables)? So it would look like this:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Any opinions/sugestions? Thanks

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Old 05/21/09, 12:56 AM   #4516
sheeplol
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Gnome Mage
 
Stonemaul

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Old 05/21/09, 1:25 AM   #4517
Feyda
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Area 52
I got banned for posting this last time, but might as well throw this out again.

20/51/0 Double-disease ITx5 Rotation:

IT IT PS OB BS FS HW FS FS

IT IT FS OB BS IT FS FS FS
7040 DPS on XT

6200 DPS on Ignis

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Old 05/21/09, 1:35 AM   #4518
sheeplol
Banned
 
Gnome Mage
 
Stonemaul
/facepalm

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Old 05/21/09, 2:00 AM   #4519
Skekses
 
Undead Warlock
 
Executus
I was wondering if there was a minimum of T8 that I should have to switch to Destro 3/13/55. I see that 41/30 is lower dps than the destro spec but I'm still getting a lot more damage with my FG than Destro. I still have a lot of 7.5 gear. Should I wait?

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Old 05/21/09, 2:16 AM   #4520
Cortic
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Tauren Warrior
 
Aman'Thul
No luck with a 25m only version of the BiS pieces?

Do you think it is possible to somehow edit the excel document to include this?

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Old 05/21/09, 4:18 AM   #4521
Fökentöt
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Crushridge
I wanted to create my own ui setup you know make it pretty and what not were does one go to do that?

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Old 05/21/09, 6:21 AM   #4522
Nimerah
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Boulderfist (EU)
Hello, I have been reading back and forth here for quite some time, and as far as I know armorpen and strength are the topstats for a blood dk, and based on that I have made a profile on chardev with capped hit and expertise.I would really love if someone thats a bit more into the entire gearing of a blood dk took a look at the profile and told me if there is anything I could(should) change in it. Any feedback will be appreciated. Apologizes for my sloppy english.
Mearas Profile

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Old 05/21/09, 6:41 AM   #4523
Thuglord
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Tirion (EU)
i tried 0/13/58, i was suprised how good it works when i got 4xt8,5 but i lost al lot of hit(now about 300) by getting it (no t-gloves), so i'm far away from 14% (i'm ally)

now my question : is it better switching to 3/13/55 or taking hit gems ?

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Old 05/21/09, 8:17 AM   #4524
Natasmai
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Druid
 
Sen'jin
If you are alliance, then you only need 13% which should be 341 iirc. From what i am seeing on your armory, I would say you can drop 2 of your 16hit gems and use veiled gems instead (or replace 1 16hit for a 19 dmg if you dont care about the bonus) I show you at 356, drop 16 hit and you should be set. I dont think you will notice that 1 rating you are below the cap.

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Old 05/21/09, 8:19 AM   #4525
tear
 
Undead Warlock
 
Agamaggan (EU)
what spec to use on ulduar bosses

im curiuos in regars to what spec u find better/more suitable for different ulduar bosses.

i have respecced to affliction/destro though due to raid setup i have my imp out even when im affliction. ( in 10 man)

i think i will stick to affliction on fights like iron council/yogg but for the rest of the fights i think destro will be better, hopefully can try and compare this week, but would like to hear some input form your experience

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