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Old 07/30/11, 9:14 AM   #27316
brysonbuckster
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Rivendare
:)

Originally Posted by Cloudyy View Post
So, i do not know if this was asked already, sorry if it already has been.

I'm at the point where with EM + Lust I'm hitting that haste where my lava burst cast time is about .8 seconds. So recently i reforged some of my haste to mastery, and now with the cds my lava burst is at exactly 1sec cast time. what im curious about is that would it be better if i just kept stacking haste until my Lightning bolt is at 1 sec cast time with the cds? wouldn't be a dps loss because my lava burst cast time would be about .7 seconds which is way past the global.
thanks in advance.
As shown on a graph in I believe the first page of this thread, more haste is more dps for us always. The best choice is to put your gear into a spreadsheet (I don't have a link now apologies) and see which would be more worthwhile for your current gear, more haste or more mastery, since they scale together so well.

Good Luck, and I look forward to others opinions on this as well.

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Old 07/30/11, 11:53 AM   #27317
Tonyk
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Gul'dan
Has anyone ever done the math to see how many targets you would need in AOE situations to make 1HP Templars Verdicts do more dps due to triple the number of Seal of Righteousness hits?

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Old 07/30/11, 1:00 PM   #27318
Civa
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Druid
 
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Hello there!
I played a little bit around with some calcs for BiS-Equip. That's my choice: chardev 8 - WoW Cataclysm
Would you agree?

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Old 07/30/11, 3:26 PM   #27319
DudeInAfunnyHat
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Garona
Wrong thread my bad.

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Old 07/30/11, 4:59 PM   #27320
fexx
Banned
 
Undead Mage
 
Onyxia (EU)
Hello everyone,

I have been unsatisfied with my DPS and Damage Done on Raid encounters ever since rerolling mage towards the end of Patch 4.1. I read a lot of posts on here and have seen quite a bunch of good arcane mage videos and I consider myself a pretty good player in world of warcraft generally, having roughly 5 years of experience.

Now I would not say my damage output is horrible, but being an arcane mage I guess I'm supposed to really top the charts most of the time. Unfortunately this has not been the case and while we're all 5 DDs (I'm raiding 10 man Firelands 7/7) pretty close together on the top with 20k+ depending on the fight, I still think I should be able to beat the hell out of an elemental shaman or a shadowpriest for example.

I'm currently using Rawr for optimization of my gear, using mostly default settings and optimizing with highest possible thouroughness for maximum DPS with Override Gem/Enchant/Reforge all ticked.

Anyways, I have no experience how to use or post logs, but our raidleader logs all of our raids and I am included in pretty much all of them. I hope with this link you can find what you're looking for (if you choose to help me that is):

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

This is a link of a recent firelands 10 man raid, killing 6/7 including Majordomo firstkill. I also recorded a 1,6gb video of our first ragnaros kill, which is uploaded on rapidshare. If anyone had the time to download that for further information and to give me even better advise on how to increase my damage output I would appreciate it a lot. Just PM me for a link I will check in regularly.

So this is the end of my very first post, I hope I did this correctly.

Thanks for your time.

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Old 07/31/11, 2:57 AM   #27321
ZetaTR
Glass Joe
 
Troll Shaman
 
Muradin
Ok but that still doesn't answer my main question of whether the tables for haste values in the PVE topic take Mind Quickening into account for, for example, the 2589 haste rating point.

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Old 07/31/11, 6:41 PM   #27322
Taoquitok
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Blade's Edge (EU)
anyone know exactly how the fiery imp scales with us yet? it definitely doesn't scale with demonology mastery as proven on the demonology topic, but based on tonights baleroc heroic attempts I would say it definitely seems to scale with haste and (oddly) that it definitely doesn't scale with crit (weird) but im unsure about with spell power/int.. here's the link to my fiery imp across the entire night of wipes
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
as you can see, 347 casts across the entire raid night, practically no crits @ 2.6%.. so leading me to think it doesn't scale from out crit.
compare this to the other warlock (demonology)
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
297 casts from his imp and again almost no crits (3%). overall my hits are slightly higher, which I believe is due to my imp usually procing while having DMC:volc, PT, heroicBell proc and volc potion up while he has the same minus the heroicBell proc as he has the necro trinket instead. With all those procs I might just overtake his spell power so could explain why mine hits for more on average.
in terms of gear our major difference is that i've got a lot more haste than him but he has a fair bit more spell power.. (especially as demonology spec).

I hope this helps figure out the scaling factors for the fieryimp.

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Old 07/31/11, 7:30 PM   #27323
dscotek
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Lightbringer
Holy / Ret ?? PVP

I've been playing a prot pally in pvp for some time, and suffering the consequences, it seems. he
I was wondering what would be a better spec for this and some rotation help with it. A lot of the threads referring to spec are older, with consideration to the 4.2 patch, etc. We've been stuck just below 1200 for a while and I believe it is a result of my toon, not my partners. Any help would be greatly appreciated .. rite now my spec is at 2/31/8
thx all

Sry, for my alt, obviously not for my DK .. hehe

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Old 07/31/11, 9:12 PM   #27324
dscotek
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Lightbringer
Prot Pally help! possible spec change for pvp

I've been playing a prot pally in pvp for some time, and suffering the consequences, it seems. he
I was wondering what would be a better spec for this and some rotation help with it. A lot of the threads referring to spec are older, with consideration to the 4.2 patch, etc. We've been stuck just below 1200 for a while and I believe it is a result of my toon, not my partners. Any help would be greatly appreciated .. rite now my spec is at 2/31/8
thx all

Sry, for my alt, obviously not for my DK .. hehe

I'm on Lightbringer with my alt and can go get an addon to report anything you need .. but essentially I think this may be a spec issue .. and then if so, a regearing will be needed..

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Old 07/31/11, 11:20 PM   #27325
Kyngston
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Icecrown
Help...
Take a look at this WoL Shannox parse:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
He casts Corruption 19 times, and manages to get 482 ticks?
That's 25.4 ticks per cast???

I'm only getting 11.4 ticks per cast.
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis and getting 2/3rds of his dps, while equally geared.

I assume he's using Haunt and SS to refresh corruption? He seems to work on 2 targets at a time. (I was trying to dot all 3)

What's the rotation?
1) work on main target until Haunt is off CD
2) switch to off-target and refresh corruption with Haunt, and then follow normal rotation
3) when Haunt is off CD, switch back to main target and repeat?

Not only is he getting 25.4 ticks per cast of corruption, but he also squeezes in 188 SB's to my 62?
How...

Last edited by Kyngston : 08/01/11 at 12:30 AM.

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Old 07/31/11, 11:34 PM   #27326
dscotek
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Lightbringer
avg of avg's

I will agree that taking a mean of avg's is not a way to correctly average what you're wanting. In some cases it may not even be close to what you want. Getting the raw data and using your formula on that data would be the ideal way to go. if you can't get that, then you may want to see what formulas they are using to get their data to back track and start anew .. if possible. I'm no statisstician but, like many here have a strong background in Calc, trig and physics .. and these numbers are not a real representation. I'm not knocking anyone's work, it certainly is useful in its own right, especially for trending as stated with markets, etc. But for specifics on gameplay, prolly not what you're wanting.
Just a thought

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Old 08/01/11, 12:30 AM   #27327
Aeoniel
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Tonyk View Post
Has anyone ever done the math to see how many targets you would need in AOE situations to make 1HP Templars Verdicts do more dps due to triple the number of Seal of Righteousness hits?
Without having done the math, I can't see this ever being viable. I have discussed this with a guildie who had a similar idea. It would take a significant amount of targets for the SoR proc to be worth more than a single 3hp TV and that is assuming a non crit.

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Old 08/01/11, 12:33 AM   #27328
 Zakalwe
The Chairmaker
 
Orc Warlock
 
Balnazzar
It's a bugged parse - they're doing 135M damage to a boss that has 81.6M health.

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Old 08/01/11, 2:09 AM   #27329
Taoquitok
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Warlock
 
Blade's Edge (EU)
wol seems to be bugging currently with any constantly refreshed debuffs like corruption as affliction or immolate as demonology.

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Old 08/01/11, 2:35 AM   #27330
Gregory
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Frostmane (EU)
Who said you should top charts ? Try to find mages here DPS charts

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