Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1827

Soltara · 08/07/11, 5:52 PM

has any tested the new proc on unheeded warning to see where it falls with the trinkets?

Ronark · 08/07/11, 6:07 PM

Originally Posted by Fyasco

As the total coverage cap becomes easier, will dodge and parry become priority or will most tanks stack stamina again? I would think total coverage with majority of it being dodge and parry makes for better survivability but it will cost so much more in stat weight

There are recommended Health pools for each tier of content as well as difficulty (Normal vs. Heroic) which have been reviewed on maintankadin a few times. Although there are a few fights with a high amount of Magical damage, we are not seeing fights like Lady Deathwhisperer where the said Magic attack makes up a majority of the damage.

Shoudra · 08/07/11, 7:15 PM

For some reason or another, a few of my spells keep missing while in raid. I am a draenei so I have heroic presence and im at 17.09% hit

Grognard · 08/07/11, 10:38 PM

Just a theory I had, but is Exemplar's spreadsheet perhaps placing haste over critical strike due to the Apparatus of Khaz'goroth? There is a metric ton of crit on gear in Firelands, and forging in favor of haste over crit would help to keep crit low enough to keep mastery as top rating. Raid buffs, of course, would help shore up the resulting lack in overall crit percentage to keep the thing powered in the first place.

This is only a theory I had; I have no math to defend it, and am simply putting it out there to help solve the discrepancy between testing models.

LiquidHAL · 08/08/11, 1:52 AM

Got any logs?

If you're just seeing misses in your scrolling combat text, it's probably mirror images.

Sien · 08/08/11, 4:43 AM

Originally Posted by vykas

I think it's important to note when we're talking about "trash" and when we're talking about "bosses" in regard to multi-dot strategies. I think there is some bleed over in this discussion that can be confusing.

So, with that said, just to clarify, boss encounters with more than one target require a multi-dot strategy.

This does read as an imperative statement which I have to disagree with if that is the intent. Bosses with multiple targets act no differently to trash in most cases.

E.G Spiderlings at Beth'tilac would not require multi-dots where as drones most defintly would.
Ragnaros the same; Scions you defintly would multi-dot whilst the Molten Seedlings in Phase 2 would be a waste of effort to multi-dot in most aspects when using the gather up strategy.

DPET and even DPMana should be considered when dealing with multiple targets.

Medastase · 08/08/11, 4:50 AM

Originally Posted by dimstog

does anyone know if we can use a macro for all this ?

I use a macro that goes like this
/use Moonwell Chalice
/cast Berserking (being a troll)
/cast Demon Soul
/cast Metamorphosis

It seems to work - meaning that all abilities fire, but I can't be sure if the +mast from the chalice is snapshoted into the Metamorphosis. I know I could keybind them separately to make sure, but being left handed makes my keybind options very awkward at best and saving a keybind or two is very important to me.

EDIT: Hm, while catching up on my reading the forums i saw this About Chalice macro which kind of answers my question. However can anyone else verify/negate/comment on this ?

Hi,
You should take an eye on a recent post I made regarding a "bug" using moonwell in a macro with metamorphosis.
You should check if you have the same behavior than me that will force you to use first your trinket and then use metamorphosis macro (I'm currently testing all other /use+ meta to be sure to benefit of all of them and at the best)
http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t110366-...2_release/p10/

Orikfricai · 08/08/11, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by odyted

When i am trying to load a char form armory i get error :
Run-Time Error 429
ActiveX component can't create object.

I am using excel 2010 and windows 7. Any1 got a solution for this ?

Still receiving this error, Landsoul. Made any headway into the cause?

Apluscarp · 08/08/11, 1:48 PM

I'm sure this has been discussed but is haste only reforged into hit/cirt/exp or does it help dps?

jtxdriggers · 08/08/11, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Apluscarp

I'm sure this has been discussed but is haste only reforged into hit/cirt/exp or does it help dps?

short answer: reforge all the haste you can into crit/hit/exp (as needed)

Jehiren · 08/08/11, 2:40 PM

If you are running sub, you should have your bleed up anyway, sub is powerful because it has rolling ruptures. If you aren't keeping rupture up on the target, then you aren't doing nearly as much DPS as you could be.

Jehiren · 08/08/11, 2:46 PM

Originally Posted by Druss

I've recently been playing Sub for PvE to the point where I'm serious enough to reforge and optimise for it and I've now got it down to the point where I plan to raid with it this week. I've been pleasantly surprised by the results of my hemo build but two things confuse me:

(1) Firstly shadowcraft is showing DMC Hurricane to be the 4th best trinket in the entire game - better than the Hungerer (which I use as a second trinket). Is it really as good as this for sub (hemo)? I note that if I switch to a dagger backstab sub build it is no where near as good. I can't see why this should be so.

(2) Secondly - and this is anecdotal only - it seems to me like spamming Ambush during shadowdance nets higher damage than building evis into the process - essentially allowing a solid 4 (crit) ambushes over something like 3 ambushes + 1 or (possibly) two eviscerates. I think because of the fact that the number of moves is limited by time the virtually 100% crit chance on Ambush and fractional extension of FW time just seems better.

Thoughts? Gear is up to date for what I wear in PvE for anyone who wants to Shadowcraft me and see what I mean.

Don't forget that, if you reforge into sub out of being combat if that's what you were before, you'll have far less expertise, if any. Ambush can't be dodged or parried but eviscerate can be. I personally found myself running into an issue during sdance where the other rogue would catch up to me (despite him being less geared) simply because he was just spamming ambush during a dance. I was losing globals for 0 damage during a huge damage cooldown.

The only time I evisc during dance is if I'm about to lose my rupture and I can't wait to re-apply after dancing.

Edit; Sorry for double post.

Shoudra · 08/08/11, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by LiquidHAL

Got any logs?

If you're just seeing misses in your scrolling combat text, it's probably mirror images.

Not very familiar with logs... And it's during my normal rotation, without images up, as well it shows up in my damage meter.

billysnts87 · 08/08/11, 9:57 PM

the embossment on bracers from LW is 130 agi. i know, not a huge reply like all these other leet players :P but its a small mistake i saw so i figured id point it out. i have it on my druid and checked to make sure

Dryssa · 08/08/11, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Shoudra

For some reason or another, a few of my spells keep missing while in raid. I am a draenei so I have heroic presence and im at 17.09% hit

According to your armory, you're at 16.9% hit.