Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1848

jorysaywut · 09/05/11, 9:58 PM

The purple circles that spawn under them from their crashes increases damage done to targets standing in them.

Nerec · 09/06/11, 4:31 AM

Till last weak fought with my alt as sm-fury and now changed to MS, because got sulfuras. But with that switch I have some troubble to define which trinkets I should use. Watched askmrrobot and the fury thread, but MS plays different and askmrrobot isnt up-to-date here.

Nevertheless, I have HoR hm, essence, Khaz'goroth and LTS. In my opinion HoR hm is a no-brain decision and should be equipped. But the other are hard to math for me. Would Khaz rank lower, cause it would always give me crit + recklessness provide already a huch crit buff. However there is Essence and LTS. I can use the Hit without overcap elsewhere but i would tend to essence.

Can anybody confirm my math or explain who I'm wrong and post a general BIS for Trinkets for MS now??

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Panthros · 09/06/11, 6:02 AM

You have received a warning at Elitist Jerks
Dear Panthros,

You have received a warning at Elitist Jerks.

Reason:
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6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say.

Theorycrafting on the EJ forums is reserved for how existing game mechanics function, not how people wish they would function.

I got this infraction severe months ago for a post explaining "alternatives" to our actual tanking model. Now I can see like 3 pages full of messages like this, but not a single infraction. Can you all just stop talking about what would be nice to have, in a theorycrafting thread, and open one where you cand divagate about whatever you (we) like, please?

tayenn · 09/06/11, 10:22 AM

Ok, thx for clarifications.

ra3l · 09/06/11, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Deitri

I was using DMC: T and CoR because of the Int, but was in doubt if I was losing a good amount of MP5.
Thanks for the answers.

As a sidenote:

I recently switched from CoR to Fiery Quintessence.
Now I'm running FoM NH + FQ and this is also a decent combo, IMO.
FQ can boost Arcane Torrent and DP. And I can boost AW and DF.

No luck on other FL trinkets or Doll.
SoW and HC T11 Trinkets are also out of bounds.

ATM best choice for me.

ra3l · 09/06/11, 10:50 AM

Another advice for you GlacialRet and everyone who has some DPS problems.

I found this video in WotLK and have been confirmed with my playstyle.

Guide to Top DPS By Kripparrian - World of Warcraft Movies

These facts still apply to the game and will never change and have never changed.

Also I would recommend to NOT use PTT for Vent,TS3,Mumble,etc.
Every PTT push is a loss in efficiency, IMO. This applies to all Specs.
If you want to use PTT anyway. Just do not Keybind it to an ability modifier.
Get a new Button on your mouse or elsewhere.

A friend of mine uses a pedal to talk on TS3, crazy but effective.

Nightstarzz · 09/06/11, 12:44 PM

I neglected Flurry and MW extra stacks, scratch out my reasoning. Thanks for the response x)

Rynok · 09/06/11, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by TyrÎon

I need help figuring out a rotation for Prot, doing very little dps, which is proving to be an issue with tank switches, when ill taunt and HS/SS/Revenge, and as soon as my taunt fades, they walk right back to the other tank

Some general tips: SS whenever possible. It's also important to use Devastate regularly to keep up your SA stacks (and, more importantly, to continue proccing free SS's). Heroic Throwing directly after you Taunt can also help with your initial burst of threat on a swap, as well as TC (regardless of whether or not you have B&T or TS, though you should have at least one of those). HS is fine to use if everything else is on CD and you find you have a lot of extra rage, but it's less efficient threat-wise than, say, SS or TC. SW, also, can help your initial burst if it's off CD (even on single-target encounters).

kow · 09/06/11, 3:00 PM

disregard

Lyranax · 09/06/11, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Zargouhl

If you read page 1 of this thread you'll see the goblin racial affects hots as well..

I read ofc, but what I did found on other forums:

Haste increases your attack speed, casting speed, the speed of your HoT and DoT ticks, AND it increases the speed that non-mana resources regenerate.

The Goblin racial only increases your Attack and Casting speed. (according to the tooltip) Any confirmation on either?

Pheron12 · 09/06/11, 4:15 PM

So does anyone know if [Moonwell Chalice] is in fact a dps increase or not over haste proc trinkets, such as Prestor's or The Hungerer?

TheMutt · 09/06/11, 4:51 PM

Originally Posted by TyrÎon

I need help figuring out a rotation for Prot, doing very little dps, which is proving to be an issue with tank switches, when ill taunt and HS/SS/Revenge, and as soon as my taunt fades, they walk right back to the other tank

I seem to have the opposite issue with threat now on my warrior. Make sure to have Vigilance on your other tank, SS, DEV, HS then continue to repeat. Depending on the fight you may also pop retaliation or even (not all fights) Recklessness. ON fights where you have high rage make sure to pop IR and dump your rage in HS

Ragnar9000 · 09/06/11, 5:15 PM

Originally Posted by TyrÎon

I need help figuring out a rotation for Prot, doing very little dps, which is proving to be an issue with tank switches, when ill taunt and HS/SS/Revenge, and as soon as my taunt fades, they walk right back to the other tank

Try shield block plus shield slam after your taunt.
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam
I understand there can be problems with swaps as that can happen to me. You can just ask the other tank to auto attack for a bit, and favor lower threat attacks. It's important to be able to work as a team, especially on simple things. You should be a survival tank in most cases, not a threat tank. While you could swap in threat trinkets, your healers probably don't want that.

Parkdruid · 09/06/11, 8:15 PM

hey i need some help
Parkdruid @ Eonar - Mr. Robot - World of Warcraft
this my.robot tells me to reforge out my haste, help? i also have my 4set but i think that heroic shannox shoulders are better.
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my armory link helppp!

Dirtyranga · 09/06/11, 10:18 PM

So i been meaning to ask people with the 4pc, what are you noticing with the non consume of riptide.. is it any good? should i be the last to get my 4pc in my raid team because of the pure fact that i cant see it doing f**k all..