Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1856

Anakbelah · 09/21/11, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by Vulgrym

If you look at the tooltip of the Colossus Smash debuff that appears on your target, you'll see the following:

So yes it's a debuff, but it only benefits the Warrior that applied it.

Thank you, you are right the tooltip that appears is much clearer.

MikeJ714 · 09/21/11, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by fourdots

Furthermore, if you equip it in the spreadsheet and then go to reforge it, it lists the "old stat" as 570 mastery, which is obviously wrong, but would probably explain why this trinket has suddenly jumped to the top of the list.

While we're on the subject of trinkets, are there any plans to add the Brewfest trinket? My gut tells me it's not an upgrade from Fluid Death, but I have to admit that 4000 AP proc did get my attention.

Originally Posted by Aldriana

Well, as I recall Mirror of Truth had a 50 sec ICD and a somewhat lower than usual proc rate, so it procced once every 55 seconds or so on average; assuming CCCC is the same, it would have uptime of about 18% and thus provide an average case ~730 AP. Add in the 340 crit rating, and you get a trinket worth less than 1100 EP, which would make it... terrible. Taking a quick glance at the Combat and Assassination guides, there are blue trinkets better than that. If this estimate is accurate, it is only of interest to people geared primarily with 5man non-heroic blues.

^^

Definitely not worth it.

Magjee · 09/21/11, 3:37 PM

These breakpoints are affected by Wreath of Air (+5%), being a goblin (+1%) and having Dark Intent (+3%) from a warlock. These are the first few breakpoints for each combination

Noticed a small error, should be Wrath of Air.

PS: Fantastic write-up Aanzeijar.

dozens · 09/21/11, 5:28 PM

Any plans to include the new 365 pocketwatch in your trinket analysis? With reforging crit to mastery it cant be too far off from a darkmoon card for demo.

Brandar · 09/21/11, 5:54 PM

Yes, ANOTHER trinket question ! I did A LOT of research on the net and couldn't find 2 sites with the same BIS list. The only thing that's obvious is H HoR. Then some say Vessel, DMC:H, LtS, AoK. Sadly I don't have H HoR.

I wouldn't ask this if I could find it, but which ones should I choose between Vessel, DMC:H, LtS, AoK, EotEF, CW ? Thank's a lot for any help !

UnholY_Prince · 09/22/11, 2:16 AM

Originally Posted by Zaafirs

As a Disc priest I use a lot atonement to heal would Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest not be a nice bonus?

You should be gkicked for even thinking about taking it over a caster DPS. Atonement? Seriously?

zarusa · 09/22/11, 4:53 AM

edit: Why did it redirect me onto page 5 when i click on the small arrow next to the threadname which should sent me to the newest page ?

Boosta · 09/22/11, 6:34 AM

Has anyone else noticed that the t11 4 set out performs the t12 4set, does this change in hc version.

Kuchi · 09/22/11, 8:30 AM

Hi all,

I have two Ragnaros normal and Zoid's Firelit Greatsword heroic
which combination is best for fury TG ?

and if I can get skullstealer Greataxe heroic, would it be better than Ragnaros?

thanks all

Notoris · 09/22/11, 8:55 AM

Originally Posted by Scypher Muppet

I was wondering if there is any way of seeing/testing/knowing what my DPS should rougly be with the gear I have on e.g. a dummy or in raids. I don't need a theorycrafted answer per se (although anything helps), but maybe some of you can tell me your gut feeling about where a warlock with my gear should be at (roughly).

I hope you can help me take away some doubt (or make it even stronger :P)

/Scy

I recommend using Simulation Craft.
Just only check-mark those buffs/debuffs you provide yourself like crit chance, CoE etc.
In my experience the result from SimulationCraft is pretty close to what you get from testing on a target dummy.

Kroy · 09/22/11, 9:02 AM

What about using the 2.0 weapon Direbrew's Bloodied Shanker with a slower 1.8 as a off hand like Brainsplinter

Hubbins · 09/22/11, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by Boosta

Has anyone else noticed that the t11 4 set out performs the t12 4set, does this change in hc version.

Where are you getting your numbers from?

I have 4 piece T12 normal gear and a mix of 378 and 359 gear. Wrath Calcs is giving me a value of 559dps for the T11 4 piece and a value of 884dps for the T12 4piece.

The set bonus aside the increase in primary stats makes T12 gear more valuable.

Boosta · 09/22/11, 10:45 AM

yeah my mistake hubbins, I had the wrong head selected in rawr.

Gippal · 09/22/11, 11:15 AM

You would still prefer as fast an OH dagger as possible in order to stack and refresh DP as quickly/often as possible.

FearMeMortals · 09/22/11, 11:55 AM

If you have 2x heroic Zoid's and you don't gain any racial bonus for using Ragnaros then Zoid's will be better.

If you have a racial bonus for Ragnaros then you will need to sim to work out which is better because the high STR on the hammer puts it further ahead then you'd think for an item half a tier behind.

If you have a racial bonus for Skullstealer then it will be better than Zoid's, otherwise Zoid's is better for the native crit.