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Old 09/28/11, 3:34 PM   #27916
uscg2010
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Feathermoon
So with 16% haste and always having a Frost DK in my raid am I over doing it on haste and if so what kind of number should i be looking for with my haste?

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Old 09/28/11, 4:49 PM   #27917
demonicmose
 
Human Warlock
 
Aerie Peak
have a dumb question? Just got back into raiding demo after 5 months off, what are we supposed to refresh during the 25% phase, soul fire and what dots should be re freshed? What pet should be out? etc? Thanks in advance

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Old 09/28/11, 5:00 PM   #27918
Ztil
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Rogue
 
Skullcrusher (EU)
Isnt it possible that finishers will still use combo points but not cost any energy when used?

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Old 09/28/11, 10:09 PM   #27919
Someonehelpme145
 
Goblin Shaman
 
Crushridge
As the next tier of content approaches I think its time to start talking about stat caps. My question is when does haste become subpar to mastery. There are two places were i think this could happen, either at:

1.When LvB casts become 1s when EM is up.
2. When LvB casts become 1s without EM

At this point in stat levels, my LvB is 1s with EM and although it would technically be a dps loss if it went below the GCD cap with EM, the uptime of EM isn't long enough for me to be too worried about it then, especially with a spell that isn't used as much as lightning bolt, as it still gains a dps increase from EM. This leaves the second situation. This would happen at 33.33% haste and with totems and buffs im around 25-26% haste. This being said, i believe that we can reach the hard cap and just dump into mastery. Tell me if im wrong with this philosophy

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Old 09/29/11, 1:20 AM   #27920
K-Dog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Hi Landsoul
Thanks for the great Spreadsheed!

missing or cant find the herbalism bonus lifeblood
Lifeblood

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Old 09/29/11, 1:56 AM   #27921
cybergam
Banned
 
Troll Druid
 
Lightning's Blade (EU)
Hello!

I'm sorry if my question has already been asked, but going though 27 pages of posts is too much ^^
I was wandering, how accurate are the numbers of simcraft in 1st post, is Demo spec better than the others, if performed well of course ?

Thanks! =)

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Old 09/29/11, 2:37 AM   #27922
Gromthak
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Nvm me, I'm blind apparently

Last edited by Gromthak : 09/29/11 at 2:48 AM.

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Old 09/29/11, 6:24 AM   #27923
Naturemeld
Glass Joe
 
Pandaren Monk
 
Burning Legion
Originally Posted by epamafia View Post
I agree with Hothgor, Seasoned winds is a better candidate for reducing the cooldown of wind shear, where we could spend the points instead of imp. shields, that way not being forced in opting out of Call of flame ou Elem. Precision.

The problem is it becomes unreachable for Elem. Maybe they could change it to also become a extra effect of Elemental Reach instead of reverb but we would have 2 talents with same effect.
Just make it part of the talent specialization like they did with Word of Glory for Holy Paladins, or the way they did dispells for non-Shadow Priests. Though I would like an excuse to grab seasoned winds in my Enh spec.

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Old 09/29/11, 7:28 AM   #27924
zecxx
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Frostmane (EU)
with 2p T13

if you have Rip up (full duration) and you have 5 combo points.
do you FB or keep spamming Shred.
and only use FB when Rip is about to fall off.

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Old 09/29/11, 10:06 AM   #27925
skules
Banned
 
Healz
Human Priest
 
Non-US/EU Server
Any values on where the direbrew trinket lies? Coren's Chilled Chromium Coaster - Item - World of Warcraft

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Old 09/29/11, 10:59 AM   #27926
Rexak
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Zenedar (EU)
Originally Posted by K-Dog View Post
Hi Landsoul
Thanks for the great Spreadsheed!

missing or cant find the herbalism bonus lifeblood
Lifeblood

Haste is a warrior's worst stat. Not that far below hit but still its the worst. Herbalist is the second worst profession you can have, so no wonder it is missing from the spreadsheet.

You should have two professions that grant strength.

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Old 09/29/11, 3:09 PM   #27927
armill
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Khadgar
help lol

Originally Posted by Jmickey View Post
I think you missed something here?



Hurricane can proc twice, once from spells and once from melee attacks. Unless you are meleeing the boss, then no, I don't believe you can have multiple hurricane procs at the same time.

The engineering goggles are a nice bonus to the profession, but they aren't a specific DPS bonus, like the glove tinker.
i hav a lock aff but my dps is not that great could be my rotation or mybe my gear can u help me out with some tips plz my lock name is crazylove from khadgar or just sent me a mesage here ty armill

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Old 09/29/11, 3:28 PM   #27928
Rhomboidspace
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Haomarush
Also anyone know off hand how rune regeneration rate is calculated. I'm kind of confused how +20% rune regen. rate from ImpBP, takes rune time to 8.33s rather then 8s.

ok figured it out, guess it's the same as all haste, which is just a really stupid system

Base/(haste rate).

Who came up with this math. It's completely illogical.

Last edited by Rhomboidspace : 09/29/11 at 3:42 PM.

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Old 09/29/11, 6:11 PM   #27929
CodeNameSly
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Warrior
 
The Forgotten Coast
Originally Posted by Rexak View Post
Haste is a warrior's worst stat. Not that far below hit but still its the worst. Herbalist is the second worst profession you can have, so no wonder it is missing from the spreadsheet.

You should have two professions that grant strength.
Not everyone can afford or cares to optimize their character to the point of choosing particular professions they may already have duplicated on other toons. You could as well argue that the spreadsheet should only allow whichever race happens to be the current best.

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Old 09/30/11, 12:45 AM   #27930
starbless
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Illidan
Cloak Enchant

Hello, I was curious about the cloak enchant.

I regard crit as an awful stat and attempt to forge out of it whenever possible.

Now, looking at available cloak enchants, we have +65 crit, or +23 haste. No other cloak enchants come close.

Using the general stat weights for 2h frost, dw frost, and unholy, the crit comes out ahead.

However, I might argue that any amount of extra haste would outweigh the 65 extra crit.

23 haste might not be a lot of haste, but the gain might help some reach this sweet spot of haste that other posters are talking about.

Here's the general stat weights multiplied into each stat.

stat rating 378 DW 378 2H 391 DW 391 2H
65 crit 75.4 74.75 83.2 83.2
23 haste 33.81 29.67 40.94 33.12


Stat 378 DW 378 2H 391 DW 391 2H
Strength 3.10 2.64 3.20 2.76
Yellow Hit 2.29 2.01 2.27 2.27
Expertise 1.64 1.63 1.87 1.89
Haste 1.47 1.29 1.78 1.44
Mastery 1.44 1.26 1.57 1.39
Crit 1.16 1.15 1.28 1.28
Hit Over Yellow 1.06 - 1.09 -

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