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Old 10/09/11, 5:23 PM   #27991
Chillyb
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Terokkar (EU)
I'm having a question towards this all theory crafting and agility fan-boying. As Paragons and Envys bear tanks are both going for full Stamina - which in my eyes is logical cause that buys more time for the healers.

Damage mitigation really isn't always good enough when it's not procing. Stamina is more stable and always there.

Does this come down to the fact that with heroic gear there is enough agility to play with without stacking it - or is there a point of view the majority of people are missing?

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Old 10/09/11, 6:41 PM   #27992
Kermitzeefrog
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Rogue
 
Nagrand
Hey I am new here but I am looking for a website for druids and a warrior if possible, I need a druid and warrior website like ShadowCraft - Rogue DPS Spreadsheet if anyone can reply that would get great and give me links please

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Old 10/10/11, 4:39 AM   #27993
Merithra
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Dun Modr (EU)
You may consider too capping both hit and expertise, at least in 10 man were the dps of the tank is a higher percentage of the total raid dps, and usually the spikes of damage are more manageable. It all depends on how heavy is the damage the tank receives vs how strict are the dps requirements of the encounter. I have been using a hit/expertise capped gear for heroic ragnaros and reaching 22-23k dps on both "static" phases (p1 and p3) seems to help my raid more than that extra avoidance, specially in p3 where there is a strict dps requirement. I did lose complete CTC, although 20 seconds out of 30 is covered thanks to shield block + 4pc bonus, but I haven't been noticing excessive damage on me at all. With tank swaps, I'm usually not tanking during those 10 seconds I'm not block capped.

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Old 10/10/11, 7:12 AM   #27994
francos86
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Death Knight
 
Arathor (EU)
Hi

Guys looking for a couple of answers to questions i have please.

1 - I've had no luck with with 1h wep drops and recently took sulfuras - Anyone know the dps difference from 2hfrost or going unholy as i don't like unholy but if the gap is huge then i might have to.

2 - I'm currently goblin and really want to be a big cow - will the dps loss be huge if i do this?I know orcs are imba but again just fancy being a Tauren.

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Old 10/10/11, 4:35 PM   #27995
Jerom
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Troll Shaman
 
Saurfang (EU)
Talent section of the main post directs to talent calculator rather than a suggested spec.

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Old 10/10/11, 6:04 PM   #27996
Umoe47
 
Tauren Druid
 
Zenedar (EU)
Rotation.

Hi , im new to combat and wanted to know is it a "must" to hit Revealing Strike after the forth combo point or is it ok to hit it after the 3rd 2end or even first combo point knowing the debuff last for 15 sec including it cost 1 energy more then talented sinster strike, Example SS-RvS-SS-SS-SS-Evs , wanted to confirm if not hiting Rvs on the 4th CP insted on 3rd then SS till u get full combo points is a dps loss.
And can u include and explanation why should it be on the 4th, ty

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Old 10/10/11, 6:24 PM   #27997
Solodrow1
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Orc Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Umoe47 View Post
Hi , im new to combat and wanted to know is it a "must" to hit Revealing Strike after the forth combo point or is it ok to hit it after the 3rd 2end or even first combo point knowing the debuff last for 15 sec including it cost 1 energy more then talented sinster strike, Example SS-RvS-SS-SS-SS-Evs , wanted to confirm if not hiting Rvs on the 4th CP insted on 3rd then SS till u get full combo points is a dps loss.
And can u include and explanation why should it be on the 4th, ty
You have Sinister Strike glyphed, so you get a 20% increased chance to proc an additional combo point from your SS's. For optimal usage you want to wait until you have 4 combo points to hit RvS so as not to waste a combo point. For example, if you hit RvS at 3 combo points, that will give you your 4th point, then your next SS may proc only 1, or possibly even 2 combo points, thus wasting that extra combo point proc. This has been discussed many times in this thread.

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Old 10/10/11, 10:34 PM   #27998
Elyasviel
Von Kaiser
 
Human Mage
 
Blackrock
Hi EJ! I've got some problems simming this and would like to ask if anyone had the solution!

I know that the BIS including Heroic Rag goes 4 piece T12 + Heroic Breastplate of Shifting Visions. What I'm trying to find out is how does 4 piece T12 + Heroic Greathelm of the Voracious Maw stack up if I'm not able to get Heroic T12 Helm off Heroic Ragnaros?

Thanks for the help!

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Old 10/10/11, 10:36 PM   #27999
fâte
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Jubei'Thos
Thanks for the reply, I will stick to the Fluid Death trinket in that case. At least it gives a 'static' agility buff. Sad to see the extra 5% poison damage go though!

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Old 10/11/11, 2:03 AM   #28000
Marvie
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Draenor
I've just switched to combat and am pushing ~28k on Ragnaros while the Shadowcraft has me at 34.8k. Granted, parries and mechanics taken into account, I don't expect to hit the optimal numbers though I'd like to squeeze out every bit I can. I've looked through many pages and haven't seen the answers to my questions so if they have been answered, I apologize.

1. KS should be used with 30% BG but what about AR? Is it more beneficial to pop it immediately after getting SnD/TotT up and keeping it on cooldown or is it best to wait and pop it immediately after KS for the rest of the 30% buff?

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Old 10/11/11, 8:41 AM   #28001
Dead_MAX
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Drak'thul (EU)
I didn't find any kind of priority list while running so my question is this.

Is there some kind of priority list or rotation while running? (Single, multiple targets, trash)

I'm using Corruption while running on adds/other mobs > when corruption is everywhere Bane of agony on adds/other mobs > reeplaying dots on main target > Soulburn Soulfire main target > Fel flame spam.

P.S. My demo warlock is lvl 50 but i'd like to dungeon/raid with him later.

Thank you for answer or even adding this to the main post.

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Old 10/11/11, 12:00 PM   #28002
valliant13
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Lightbringer
Originally Posted by Elyasviel View Post
Hi EJ! I've got some problems simming this and would like to ask if anyone had the solution!

I know that the BIS including Heroic Rag goes 4 piece T12 + Heroic Breastplate of Shifting Visions. What I'm trying to find out is how does 4 piece T12 + Heroic Greathelm of the Voracious Maw stack up if I'm not able to get Heroic T12 Helm off Heroic Ragnaros?

Thanks for the help!
I remember the original BIS had heroic tier chest and the heroic greathelm due to the absurd amount of hit that was present with the tier helm. Things were changed as expected but I do remember the original bis list was that way.

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Old 10/11/11, 1:18 PM   #28003
thelordymir
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Area 52
I'm trying to decide between the Revered Avengers trinket, apparatus and just crushing weight normal version.

Apparatus has more str but the boost gives mastery which is below haste on priority list, while the weight gives haste but has about 62str less, the Essence of Eternal flames has static mastery and gives a nice boost of str to couple with Pillar of Frost since both are on a 1min CD.

Is there any shadowcraft like site for DKs to plug in or do we still use Rawr? I havnt used a simulator in a long time honestly.

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Old 10/11/11, 1:57 PM   #28004
nathanrael
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by thelordymir View Post
I'm trying to decide between the Revered Avengers trinket, apparatus and just crushing weight normal version.

Apparatus has more str but the boost gives mastery which is below haste on priority list, while the weight gives haste but has about 62str less, the Essence of Eternal flames has static mastery and gives a nice boost of str to couple with Pillar of Frost since both are on a 1min CD.

Is there any shadowcraft like site for DKs to plug in or do we still use Rawr? I havnt used a simulator in a long time honestly.
Crushing Weight (normal) is the weakest of your three potential trinkets. Essence of the Eternal Flame reforged to haste and lined up with Raise Dead/Pillar of Frost is an excellent boost to burst DPS; I can understand not wanting to run two on-use trinkets (matter of personal preference), though they're still both excellent choices. In short, EotEF and AoK have superior EVs than Crushing Weight.

Lastly, just curious, but why exactly would Apparatus be giving you a mastery proc instead of a haste proc, assuming you're following normal stat priorities?

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Old 10/11/11, 2:43 PM   #28005
Taiyoken
Piston Honda
 
Worgen Druid
 
Mannoroth
You can use AoK and Essence at the same time also which leads to pretty ludicrous burst.

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