Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1875

Faerrun · 10/31/11, 10:26 AM

Not to go off topic here, but I'd just like to make sure I'm doing things right.
Faerrun @ Bonechewer - Game - World of Warcraft

I'm using the Scales of Life now because I'm well over the CTC cap, which is what I should be doing, correct? I have other mastery trinkets, like the rep one and the TB resist one, but that just puts me well into 6-8% over the 102.4.

shaenoide · 10/31/11, 12:11 PM

Hi,

I have quite a few concerns about the big changes with the upcoming patch

1) The more time passes, we can see how powerfull are absorbs abilities and hots (passive healing) to soak damages on tanks :

Priests have bubble+hot
Druids have hots hots... and hots
Chaman have Earth Shield and Riptide

But paladin is unprovided with any of those. POTI the only ability who look alike is nerfed to the ground.

2) New HR looks nice but with the initial heal not transfering to beacon we have to make a choice between healing tank or healing raid we are unable to do both unlike other healers. Imo it's a bick lack of synergia.

3) With the DR on HR in a R25 encounter is HR still amazing or just a sword strike into water? How much the initial heal and the hot do? (20-25 targets)

4) What about haste? Do we have to focus it anymore?

5) The last one is just a question. In early build casting HR on different targets allow the hot "to stack" is it still possible?

Do my worries are well founded or not?

Thanks for your answers

Sorry for my english it's not my native language.

Ghazz · 10/31/11, 1:40 PM

a nother thing not mentioned in this guide as far as i can remember:
mindflay and mind sear profit from buffs that benefit our dots like empowered shadows and so on, you will notice a huge dps increase when having an orb left over and casting it before spamming mind sear on the next mobpack.
it does not pay off to go for an orb before starting aoe though

shaenoide · 10/31/11, 4:07 PM

double post sorry

shaenoide · 10/31/11, 4:10 PM

Against rule number 6 deleted

Batar · 10/31/11, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by Vman1987

They need to do the following and get it over with!

To Paladins/Warriors:

You can block 30% of all melee damage block can be increased via master and is triggered by X ability

To Death Knights:

Blood shield absorbs 30% of all melee damage blood shield can be increased via mastery and is triggered by Death Strike.

Druids:

Savage defence absorbs 30% of all melee damage savage defence can be increase via mastery and is triggered by X ability.

To much homogenization. All we need is a bigger buffer, more health, to equalize things. The change to blade barrier is already bad enough. Start doing things like the above poster suggests, and we will all just be standing there, soaking.

The "spiky" argument is old and tired. Healers in your raid, especially if you're in a progression guild, should be able to adapt and learn, or should have already.

Elenwi · 10/31/11, 9:41 PM

Hi there

This is an awesome guide so thank you very much!
I'm trying to make a macro for my 4set t12 DPS CD's as per your macro guide:
"4 T12 DPS CDs
#showtooltip
/castsequence Zealotry, Guardian of Ancient Kings, Avenging Wrath
/startattack

One button to cast the cooldowns in sequence, rather than at one go. You will need to encompass the timing pauses yourself. You can add a delay element to whisper yourself (only communications can be delayed in a macro) 5 seconds after pressing the button. Otherwise you will need to track the remaining time on activated CD."

However I'm a bit stuck on how I would go about adding the delayed whisper part. Would someone elaborate on what I would need to add pls? I'd be really greatful

Deitri · 10/31/11, 11:48 PM

Greetings everyone.

With this gear on my SPriest:
Nothealer @ Kel'Thuzad - Game - World of Warcraft , I'm doing like 11~13k DPS on Boss Fights, sometimes 15k. The rotation I use is the one posted by the OP. (In target dummy my DPS doesn't even reach 10k.)
My DPS is too low for Bosses WITH THIS GEAR? (I know there's some unenchanted items, I don't want to expend with items under 353 ilvl).

Nothing too serious, because this gear is trash, but just want to check if I'm doing something wrong now, so I wont keep doing it later on.

Deitri · 11/01/11, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Deitri

Greetings everyone.

With this gear on my SPriest:
Nothealer @ Kel'Thuzad - Game - World of Warcraft , I'm doing like 11~13k DPS on Boss Fights, sometimes 15k. The rotation I use is the one posted by the OP. (In target dummy my DPS doesn't even reach 10k.)
My DPS is too low for Bosses WITH THIS GEAR? (I know there's some unenchanted items, I don't want to expend with items under 353 ilvl).

Nothing too serious, because this gear is trash, but just want to check if I'm doing something wrong now, so I wont keep doing it later on.

I just used SimulationCraft, and removing the flask, potions and food effect, it says I should be doing 18k dps.
Seriously? If the SimCraft is right, I don't know what I am doing wrong, because I'm strictly following the rotation posted here (tried both).

edit: nvm, had some options turned on. (all buffs, 8min fight, Elite player skill)
The new results showed a more "realistic" DPS based on my situation: 14k dps.

Deitri · 11/01/11, 3:55 PM

edit: double post

Kuthumii · 11/01/11, 4:48 PM

So I just got back in the game after a 2 year break. I left when shortly after killing Yogg, so I am fairly far behind regarding stuff.

While I am not yet 85, I intend to raid with my current guild as a back up. As such I'd like some help with clarifying Ret's current FCFS rotation among a few other things.

The current FCFS is:

Inq > CS > TV > Exo > HoW > J > HW > Cons

So, I inquire if I am to CS to get 1 HP then use Inq when a fight begins? Or do I stack to 3 HP then Inq and then begin the rest of the FCFS rotation.

Exo and HoW are above J. I assume this is only the case if I have the instant cast Exo, am using AW or am below 20%.

If Divine Purpose procs and Inq needs a refresh, I assume I refresh it as opposed to using it to TV. If it doesn't need a refresh and I have Zealotry off CD, should I pop Zealotry?

Thanks for the help and I am sorry if some of this is a rehash, but the new Ret seems far more complicated than it was when I left.

Asmodaii · 11/01/11, 5:47 PM

So what is that, roughly 45 second ICD? so ~22% uptime?

Chid · 11/01/11, 8:44 PM

Just wondering why I am so far behind in terms of DPS for my Guild. I have no idea what I am doing wrong and if I'm doing the right thing or not.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis Here's logs from tonight's Baleroc attempts.
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis Here's general Guild logs if you would like to check them for me.
Quéeful @ Draenor - Game - World of Warcraft Here is my Character Profile.

Thanks!

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Tonight's kills/tries.

FearMeMortals · 11/01/11, 9:28 PM

edit: deleted because it was wrong / badly expressed / generally confusing

Medastase · 11/02/11, 5:14 AM

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

A much more relevant question is whether demonology can finally ditch shadow bolt entirely. And the answer is yes, in 4.3 the best spec will drop bane for improved corruption and the corruption glyph for the incinerate glyph, and never cast any shadow bolts. It wins over the current setup by about 200 DPS.

I won't be changing the current BiS profiles over, though - we're about to start making T13 profiles anyway.

I think they will not let this a long time...changing the SB skin to not be used by more than half of the players (those that will probaly continue to play demono ^^) is...strange ^^