Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1876

hirokinae · 11/02/11, 7:06 AM

Hey, just a random question. I'm lookin between the Heroic uncrushable belt of fury vs the cinch of the flaming ember. Now, since theres no other feasible dps belt besides these two, I was wondering which belt would be better to use?

Masterimp · 11/02/11, 7:38 AM

EDIT: misunderstood the trinket-comparison, please delete my post

greetz,
Masterimp

Muspel · 11/02/11, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by hirokinae

Hey, just a random question. I'm lookin between the Heroic uncrushable belt of fury vs the cinch of the flaming ember. Now, since theres no other feasible dps belt besides these two, I was wondering which belt would be better to use?

The heroic belt is better, barely. It's an upgrade of like 10 DPS.

I would never take it over a tank. I believe it's also a larger upgrade for frost DKs and perhaps ret paladins, so I personally wouldn't worry about it unless it's gonna get disenchanted anyways.

maledictum · 11/02/11, 2:41 PM

Good day, fellow warriors!
i know, it's sort of stupid question, but how much hit will be comfortable for tg fury?

yeah, i know 'bout my bad english

Zerova · 11/02/11, 6:14 PM

Originally Posted by Whitefyst

To be clear, here is how an SS cast is 1.4s with 12.93% haste from gear and Pathing.

2s / 1.1 (10% haste raid buff) / 1.15 (ISS) / 1.1293 = 1.40001

At your haste level of 1872, your haste from gear is 14.62% and your over all haste including Pathing is 18.06%.

Your SS cast should be at:

2 / 1.1 / 1.15/1.1806 = 1.34s

Your SS cast should be 1.473 without the 10% haste raid buff. As MM, its hard to practive your shots on the target dummy if you do not have a friend available with the 10% haste raid buff.

At near end game gear levels like yours, you should follow the high haste recommendation in the guide.

So the guide is written thinking that you do have the 10% from shamyy etc. Thanks.

What's the haste I should aim for? And how many casts of Steady / Arcane should i fit in the 9sec between chimeras?

Rexak · 11/02/11, 8:30 PM

Originally Posted by Muspel

The heroic belt is better, barely. It's an upgrade of like 10 DPS.

I would never take it over a tank. I believe it's also a larger upgrade for frost DKs and perhaps ret paladins, so I personally wouldn't worry about it unless it's gonna get disenchanted anyways.

Don't assume that its a 10dps upgrade for everyone just because it was for your gearset.

For my gearset, it was a far larger upgrade as it allowed capping of expertise as an orc without having to reforge anything to expertise while using AoK/vessel.

sevenlist · 11/02/11, 8:47 PM

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MIGhunter · 11/03/11, 2:17 AM

I know this is an old post but is this still being updated? I used it tonight and it didn't show a lot of stuff. Just not sure if it's me or the program that isn't picking up the info. for example, it isn't picking up any melee swings.

Krolog · 11/03/11, 3:13 AM

Hello Guys,

I got a simple question for the good informative ones. Iam trying to figger out if the raggi Hammer in the nhc- Version would be better in my mainhand now ?

I came to this thought because the Hammer is slower and gives me +31 str.

Look at my profile and answer me please. Its only the change of my current weapon in the mainhand to the raggi nhc Hammer.

Krolog @ Destromath - Spiel - World of Warcraft

Greetz

Morvena · 11/03/11, 4:15 AM

Originally Posted by Sculduggery

Since Venomous Wounds affects Garrote, opening with Garrote is going to result in more damage and energy return than opening Mutilate when it is viable. There are going to be situations where it is not possible to pre-pot + re-enter stealth then Garrote, but in situations where it is viable (Saurfang/LK), you will want to use Garrote.

The question isn't whether is more DPS to chose to open with either Garrote or Mutilate. The question is whether it's more DPS to open pre-pot or Garrote.

Depending on your micromanagement skills, using Vanish for the Overkill during combat should always be broken with Garrote now; the reasons being the same. I assume you could macro something like this:

/cast [nostealth] Vanish, [stealth] Garrote

this does not work..

Morvena · 11/03/11, 8:35 AM

Thank you very much Artoxia

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Muspel · 11/03/11, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by Krolog

Hello Guys,

I got a simple question for the good informative ones. Iam trying to figger out if the raggi Hammer in the nhc- Version would be better in my mainhand now ?

No.

FlekzZ · 11/03/11, 2:51 PM

Hi guys, well i have read a lot and i think that with the equip that my demo had maybe my DPS it's low.

This is my warlock Flekzz @ Drakkari - Juego - World of Warcraft

My rotation is: CoE - Methamorphosis + Demon Soul (Felhunter almost always) Soul Cast + Moonwell - Bane of Doom - Demon Leap - Inmolation Aura - Corruption - Inmolate - HoG - Shadow Bolt untill molten core appears. Then, everytime that i can i cast HoG and refresh corruption when it's almost over (2seg aprox).

In a dummy i reach 32k with Doomguard but in boss it's like 24k aprox. ¿Any suggestions with my reforged, gems, rotation maybe?

My stats are:

Spell Power: 9658 (Fel armor and Demonic Pact)
Haste: 1154 (9.01%)
Crit: 977 (15.65%)
Mastery: 2048 (38% damage plus on demo)

Dastey · 11/03/11, 3:05 PM

Originally Posted by FlekzZ

Hi guys, well i have read a lot and i think that with the equip that my demo had maybe my DPS it's low.

This is my warlock Flekzz @ Drakkari - Juego - World of Warcraft

My rotation is: CoE - Methamorphosis + Demon Soul (Felhunter almost always) Soul Cast + Moonwell - Bane of Doom - Demon Leap - Inmolation Aura - Corruption - Inmolate - HoG - Shadow Bolt untill molten core appears. Then, everytime that i can i cast HoG and refresh corruption when it's almost over (2seg aprox).

In a dummy i reach 32k with Doomguard but in boss it's like 24k aprox. ¿Any suggestions with my reforged, gems, rotation maybe?

My stats are:

Spell Power: 9658 (Fel armor and Demonic Pact)
Haste: 1154 (9.01%)
Crit: 977 (15.65%)
Mastery: 2048 (38% damage plus on demo)

You really don't wanna use Fel hunter with the Demon Soul. The best way to do it is to start out with your felguard pop the CDs, get HoG up on the boss and use felstorm from your pet and then instant summon your felhunter when felstorm is over. You want your felguard for every single demon soul, so every 2 minutes you need to hard summon your felguard and do the same.

Regarding your trinket usage, you will need to use Moonwell prior to popping the CDs. Like maybe 0,2 sec so it actually activates, otherwise its useless.
Here is a macro for it
#showtooltip [stance:2] Immolation Aura; [nostance] Metamorphosis
/castsequence [stance:2] Immolation Aura; [nostance] 14, Metamorphosis
/cast Demon Soul

First click activates trinket, wait 0,2 - 0,5 sec and then click it twice to active meta and immo aura.
Also make sure to renew BoD when your cooldowns are up, in the start I always wait 5 seconds with BoD in order to get my proccs up so I get the maximum out of the 1 min BoD

Regarding your stats, I dont quite understand the language but your crit rating is a lot higher than mine, you need to reforge out of crit and into mastery. Haste would be your 2nd priority (assuming you are hit capped)