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Old 11/29/11, 8:51 PM   #28291
jsz
Von Kaiser
 
Pandaren Rogue
 
Magtheridon
Is there a list of BiS weapons from the raid and where the stages of legendary dagger set fall on there?

Last edited by jsz : 11/29/11 at 8:56 PM.

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Old 11/29/11, 9:25 PM   #28292
Romner
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Aerie Peak (EU)
Umm.... any difference from the old 4.2 guide?

Anyhow, I do have one question:

I'm currently in a very mediocre set of gear, and am almost at the 2005 haste breakpoint. However, with the 4.3 nerf to WG is it worth only getting Haste, or should I get myself some Mastery instead? (very low at the moment, only 11 Mastery)

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Old 11/29/11, 11:27 PM   #28293
grazan
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Grazan
Troll Shaman
 
The Underbog
Mastery is still our top stat correct? Reforge lite is telling me to go all crit...

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Old 11/29/11, 11:42 PM   #28294
tazz100588
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Frostmourne
still not updated for 4.3 =(

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Old 11/30/11, 2:55 AM   #28295
X-Spirit
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Термоштепсель (EU)
So, for today's first raid and for maximum HMs next week, max haste + spirit gear or minimum haste (with 4th HR tick)/mastery + spirit would be better? What do you think?

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Old 11/30/11, 5:59 AM   #28296
Syk
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Dun Modr (EU)
i have 2 questions, u told that shadowfrost is beter than frost dw, and explain of shadowfrost told "forfeit using Obliterate", but in priority the second choice is obliterate, and in talents u use rime, if u dnot use obliterate rime never proc, i think is beter use another build to shadowfrost, with glyp of icy touch instead of obliterate, and some talents changed for rime, just like this WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie
i have 1 question more, u never use plage strike? only for put blood plage on target, and later never spend uh runes?

please tell me if shadowfrost is going bether than dw frost, and sory for my inglish

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Old 11/30/11, 9:20 AM   #28297
Rougeyopants
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Blood Furnace
Hello. I was wondering If I could get some help on my DW Frost rotation. Im pulling around 21k on the dummies but I rekon I can get more. I cant tell you my exact rotation but it go's a little something like this. PoF, trink(s), raise dead, spell that applies both diseases, Obliterate as much as possible (and using it when KM procs), use HB when Rime procs, and spam FS as possible when full on RP, while using HoW on downtimes. Blood taping as much as possible.

Cheers

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Old 11/30/11, 10:31 AM   #28298
Mericet
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Kargath
I haven't tried in 4.3, but in 4.2 I often found that trying to use 2 launched traps in a row would result in trap launcher not being ready yet and the second trap being planted at my feet because I'm used to things having a 1 second GCD (particularly on beth'tilac while killing spiderlings), and I suspect many people can relate to that frustration. Because of this, I think launching a trap incurs a 1.5 second cooldown on just trap launcher, since trap launcher doesn't activate but the trap does drop.

Edit: I guess it's also possible that I'm hitting the trap launcher button slightly before its cooldown is finished and the trap itself slightly after, causing the launcher to fail and the trap to drop even though both have the same 1.5 second cooldown.

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Old 11/30/11, 11:11 AM   #28299
Kreff
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Страж Смерти (EU)
Thank you for the quick reply, sir. I haven't had time to test it myself yet (work duties

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Old 11/30/11, 11:30 AM   #28300
Hrethgir
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warrior
 
Demon Soul
I have a simple question, I was wondering if I should replace either Heroic Apparatus of Kaz'goroth or Normal Vessel of Acceleration with the Normal Creche of the Final Dragon. Thank you!

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Old 11/30/11, 11:42 AM   #28301
zuldzin
 
Human Rogue
 
Anachronos (EU)
I have 2 questions, with spec in 4.3 is better for dragon soul raid, assassination or combat , was reading couple new guides and it looks combat is still little better for most bsses, but want to know for sure, and 2nd question, now when rogue can use daggers in combat with would be better to use in MH: Shatterskull Bonecrusher NM or Feeding Frenzy HC? Im no good with all those number so woud be grateful if some one could answer that

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Old 11/30/11, 11:49 AM   #28302
Probaton
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Hellfire (EU)
Combat is better. It does slightly better single target dps and its cleave mechanics are awesome.

With regards to daggers: Combat mechanics have not changed, its the legendary daggers that have been tweaked. All other daggers will still suck in combat, only use them if you have both legendaries.

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Old 11/30/11, 12:51 PM   #28303
nour
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Dark Iron
Horde Races

While we still do not know a clear cut answer towards which horde race is best for us, I believe that it may be goblin. Orc was best last patch only by a little bit; however now with the ability to yield that MH dagger legendary (in COMBAT spec) the axe specialization bonus for orcs is somewhat thrown out the window. I would love to see some numbers to confirm this since I cannot really test this without paying to change races; however this is my opinion that at the moment goblin is probably slightly ahead of orc for us.

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Old 11/30/11, 12:57 PM   #28304
Mhobius
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Human Death Knight
 
Nemesis (EU)
Why there is no pre-hardmode bis gear list for Frost DW? I'm pretty sure is more useful than his Frost 2H "no-restriction" counterpart.

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Old 11/30/11, 2:20 PM   #28305
Achillius-Silverhand
Glass Joe
 
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Human Warrior
 
Silver Hand
What are your thoughts on replacing slam entirely with HS, and using the 2 Improved Slam Points elsewhere, such as Incite? I find that removing slam simplifies my rotation, gives me 2 extra talent points to boost HS, which is now even more valuable with the new 2-piece T13 bonus.

Thoughts?

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