Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 189

norg · 03/15/09, 11:36 AM

Shadow of Death as been removed in the latest PTR build so don't fret too much.

Tyranadin · 03/15/09, 8:17 PM

Originally Posted by Arthaal

Yes, I am aware that int plate wouldn't appeal to any other class. That fact was the driving force behind the ret redesign in wotlk.

Hidden Intellect on Plate like hidden Feral AP!

Ehhh, just kidding. Just spitballing because I feel screwed.

lilrex · 03/16/09, 12:53 AM

For the list of best in slot gear listed on page3 or 4 , what would be the best gems to put into the gear?

hordikos · 03/16/09, 4:00 AM

Previous posts mentioned the EGG bug was fixed!! I did not see any difference. Last night in NAxx 25 man the EGG procced 180 times(measured with Procodile) wheras my standard Sundial did 210 times.

Myth-Cosmo · 03/16/09, 4:08 AM

Originally Posted by hordikos

Previous posts mentioned the EGG bug was fixed!! I did not see any difference. Last night in NAxx 25 man the EGG procced 180 times(measured with Procodile) wheras my standard Sundial did 210 times.

Last night you raidet nax25 on the ptr?
what a waste of time

S0und · 03/16/09, 4:43 AM

ThatDude · 03/16/09, 6:11 AM

I apologize for changing the topic, but I have a suggestion for Assassination DPS. I hear that Assassination DPS is not on par with Combat, so I have come up with a suggestion. What would happen if we brought the old glyph effect to Master Poisoner and brought in a Turn the Tables glyph which allowed the crit chance applied to all attacks? It would give an energy dump along with an increased crit chance on attacks by 3% ( because it would replace CQC ) with maybe a +6% chance to crit on poisons. But if the DPS is too much I could understand it just sticking to white attacks and combo moves only. And assuming this was a good idea and brought us back to Rupture no longer being apart of the cycle, maybe adding a higher AP coefficient to Rupture from Hunger for Blood. I could understand adding the AP coefficient to HfB while not allowing the additional 6% poison crit chance because that may bring too high of a DPS increase, but either way everything could be ironed out. I would really like to hear feedback on this.

dabadguy · 03/16/09, 7:30 AM

There is no AP coefficient to Rupture from HfB. HfB is already going to be 18% damage increase, Blizzard can't put that much of an increase into a single talent...well I guess they could. They've already shown a propensity to use HfB as a "hey, we need to balance tree DPS, so we'll just adjust this talent and not address the underlying mechanics that are screwing up the situation."

Also, with the TtT glyph proposition: that would put an extra 11% crit in the Assassination tree. A better suggestion to me would be to make that +6% hit to poisons. That would put us at 11% hit for poisons and 5% for physical. Add in Misery and we're looking at 14% hit. That means that the rogue would only have to add 3% hit from gear to be both special capped and poison capped. It would allow us more itemization choices, unless the new tier pieces are stacked in hit (I haven't looked at T8 yet). However, this is all just conjecture and theory based on nothing, and I would actually rather see Blizzard re-work the entire rogue class mechanics than to just continually tweak certain talents/abilities.

Lewtmeister · 03/16/09, 9:07 AM

Folks I'm in a sort of dilemma at the moment. I've got 2 questions I'd like some opinions on seeing how there are opposing views on the matter from speaking to various end-game ret paladins.

1. If using a Darkmoon Card: Greatness trinket, which is the better second trink; Mirror of Truth or the JC Boar with 2x16 str gems in it.

2. Is it worth using the Valorous Helm for the 4-piece bonus? If so - are Crude Discoloured Battlegrips or [Zeliek's Gauntlets] better?

inos · 03/16/09, 9:16 AM

1 ask for you guys can you put here results for:
3500 spell dmg
19% haste (without totem)

for 0/41/30 and 3/52/16

?

Sprocket · 03/16/09, 9:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cydos

Yeah, Earlier it was decided that using life tap on demand is more dps then trying to keep up the lifetap buff from the glyph. The life tap glyph is probably our highest dps boost, due to the high levels of spirit in higher levels of gear. Getting 40% of that as spell power is crazy. I have problems believing that it will stay like that through the patch, but we can only hope. It was noted though that on most fights you will life tap to full mana during breaks in the fight, but I think it will take some actual testing in real world play to see how much DPS the glyph actually equates to.

Thanks! guess i'll keep 4pc a bit longer...

• Zurm · 03/16/09, 9:59 AM

Originally Posted by Lewtmeister

Folks I'm in a sort of dilemma at the moment. I've got 2 questions I'd like some opinions on seeing how there are opposing views on the matter from speaking to various end-game ret paladins.

1. If using a Darkmoon Card: Greatness trinket, which is the better second trink; Mirror of Truth or the JC Boar with 2x16 str gems in it.

2. Is it worth using the Valorous Helm for the 4-piece bonus? If so - are Crude Discoloured Battlegrips or [Zeliek's Gauntlets] better?

1) Mirror of Truth, hands down.
2) 4pc is pretty huge, so I'd say yes. As for the other two, I don't know the stats offhand (for future reference, enclosing an item name in item and /item tags (with square brackets around them, like other BBcode commands) will create a wowhead link to the item that we can hover over... here's an example:

[ item]Betrayer of Humanity[ /item] (without spaces) --> [Betrayer of Humanity]

As always though, both of these questions in the future should be solved by you using Rawr or the spreadsheet.

Phatpharm · 03/16/09, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by hordikos

Previous posts mentioned the EGG bug was fixed!! I did not see any difference. Last night in NAxx 25 man the EGG procced 180 times(measured with Procodile) wheras my standard Sundial did 210 times.

That is odd. I copied my Mage over to PvP test server, bought the Egg, and headed to the nearest Practice Dummy. Had no procs after 5 minutes of chain-casting AM.

(last week)

JU1CYFRU1T · 03/16/09, 2:04 PM

I will admit right off the bat that I didn't "read" every single post in this thread (23 pages is a LOT)... so please feel free to flame away if this has already been posted/discussed. The only thing I would ask, is that with the flame, is a post number or something so that I can re-find the info without having to re-read the ~600 posts to find my info

Anyway, some facts, and then my questions.

I am playing WoW on my 17" MacBook Pro, and I want to get an external control device so that I am not button-mashing my built-in keyboard to death. I have only been playing WoW for a month, so I am not really going to have to "relearn" anything (which is nice)... but I want to make sure that the devices I get are not only the best available, but fit my "needs".

I have heard a lot of good things about the Logitech G13, which is #1 on my current list of "must haves". Are there any Mac users out there using this device who have had significant issues with it? I don't fully understand all of the control aspects of the game yet (macros/custome scripts)... but I am sure that will change in time. I don't want to buy the G13, and then find out in a month or two that it doesn't do something correctly on my Mac.

For a mouse, I am currently using a VX Nano, but I am going to be changing that to a Razer ProClick 1.6. This one is much less of a questionmark, because my brother-in-law has one that he has been using for a while. I like the fact that it has 5 programable buttons and what seems to be high-quality sensor.

I am still doing some research for a good set of headphones, but am leaning towards a few different Plantronics sets (THESE) or THIS set by TRITTON. Any and all comments on these headsets and others are welcomed and encouraged (lol).

renegadeofunk · 03/16/09, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by hordikos

Previous posts mentioned the EGG bug was fixed!! I did not see any difference. Last night in NAxx 25 man the EGG procced 180 times(measured with Procodile) wheras my standard Sundial did 210 times.

I'm going to assume that you were on the live servers, not the PTR. Is that correct?