Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1891

Struth · 12/02/11, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by yanhero

I'm sure many rogues who aern't the first to get the legendary will have this same question: are the ilvl403 weapons that drop off of normal Deathwing better than the 1st stage of the legendary?

Depends on spec I'd think.

I did the same calculations as I had both weapons. Just going off napkin maths with the EP values for my Sub gear on Shadowcraft, Fear comes out higher.

Blade of the Unmaker
220 agil = 836
147 haste = 224.91
89 mastery = 77.43
58 crit = 81.78
696.7 weapon dps = 5037.141
=6257.262

Fear
238 agil = 904.4
108 crit = 152.28
60 hit = 64.8
40 exp = 51.6
658.6 weapon dps = 4761.678
87.5 agil 2 set proc = 332.5
=6267.258

The only thing that could be wrong is the proc. Just from personal testing it seemed to take around 2 mins to stack it to 100. So on an 8 min fight it was worth 87.5 agil. So they are quite even, but if my proc maths is wrong the Blade of the Unmaker pulls ahead. If the proc wasn't there at all, the Blade of the Unmaker would be a clear winner.

Vulmio · 12/02/11, 6:53 PM

I am fury (TG) and I need help about the new trinkets from the 5 men donjons, since I haven't seen any discussion about them. I am wondering if they are better than what I am using : Heroic Heart of Rage (and normal Vessel of acceleration). Vulmio is my warrior if you want to check my armory.

Thanks for your help !

Brakthir · 12/02/11, 8:10 PM

This is a pretty huge hit to our overall dps. I wonder if they had this bug fix in mind during the development of 4.3 in addition to the 5% nerf. I don't think they did. The 5% nerf would bring us in line with most other melee classes. This might put us in the bottom though.

Rexak · 12/02/11, 9:24 PM

If Fury dps is where they want it to be, then Blizzard are openly admitting that they want it to be subpar to Arms and most of the other melee classes as of 4.3. Rather dissapointing. Lets hope the additional 'data' they need floods in soon.

TonyMontac · 12/03/11, 1:00 AM

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Vertigosa · 12/03/11, 2:24 AM

With the recent buffs to Unholy, how is the spec comparing to playing a frost DK? Is it on par with frost or is frost still the choice pick to play in raids?

hydroburn · 12/03/11, 4:59 AM

Sorry if this is covered and I missed it. But, My main toon is a lvl 85 Druid Tank. I can't seem to find a clear answer to this question... What Dodge percent do I need to shoot for before reforging into mastery/ or any other stat? ATM i have 25.12% dodge and 59% mastery. I'm wondering if I need more or less dodge. I really don't raid, but If i get a chance. I like to think I will be OK to. Any advice will be wonderful, I don't get all the posted math above and don't wish to goto collage to try to figure it out. I would like a good ole' Hydro 30% is what you need or Brother your 5% over reforge that into something else. Thanks guys

owatonka · 12/03/11, 5:37 AM

Can any1 give me a rough estimate how much better the eye is over bone trinket, if it is better at all.

jamesmor · 12/03/11, 10:47 AM

I'm sure I'll be laughed out of the forums for this one, but, how should a druid just starting to get together a tanking set, setup rawr?

I looked at rawr myself and frankly was overwhelmed.

Falowin · 12/03/11, 12:08 PM

I know you guys are still working on it, but just so you are aware:

Interrogators Bloody Footpads are having their agility under reported.

When I switch from Heroic Sandals of Leaping coals I see a DPS loss of 718. Reforge only brings that back up 40 points. Agility on IBF should be 468 with two red gems and 20 Agility bonus. And SLC should be 372 with one red gem and 10 bonus. However, my agilty with the Sandals is being reported as 5511 and with the IBF it is being reported as 5259.

Thanks for the great work you guys have and are putting in on this,

Gicks · 12/03/11, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by Vertigosa

With the recent buffs to Unholy, how is the spec comparing to playing a frost DK? Is it on par with frost or is frost still the choice pick to play in raids?

Unholy is stronger than frost atm which is why you are seeing so many people switch to it. The only iffy part is AOE fights like Black phase on ooze boss frost might pull ahead BUT lets not forget unholy has pestilence blood boil and death and decay.

Gohinad · 12/03/11, 3:26 PM

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Dottielottie · 12/03/11, 8:05 PM

Does anyone know why this is not working?

Fyllbo · 12/03/11, 9:54 PM

Are there any numbers on how much a Survival Hunter would benefit from Dark Intent?

roeexisra · 12/03/11, 10:14 PM

i have no idea what your talking about.. my burst with arcane was about 50-60k+ my burst with combustion is the same.. even tought its rng i think its better to keep it fire definitely for yor when the fire aoe can nearly solo adds at black phase, for blackhorn i agree that fire feels less better for the drakes but arcane can burst 1 dragon than im not sure its better