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Old 12/05/11, 3:37 AM   #28381
plockzy
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Plockzy
Worgen Rogue
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Another issue might be:

Using the stage 1 daggers (fear/vengeance) i've noticed that my landslide procs dropped to about 50% of what they are without daggers as combat.

I've compared it to another rogue in our guild on several fights. We have nearly the same gear, nearly the same hit aswell 14.4% for him and 14.7% for me. I used the daggers he used firelands weapons 2.6/1.4

Attack wise

His white attacks:
208 hit 214 crit
Mine:
253 hit 252 crit

His SS:
95 hit 44 crit
Mine:
95 hit 49 crit

He had 47 landslide procs vs my 24.

Uptime:
Him
Landslide 47 69.9 %
Me:
Landslide 24 46.2 %

Im unsure how to test it properly. Has anyone else experienced weird behaviour with landslide and using the daggers as combat? This is nearly the same for all bosses.

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Old 12/05/11, 3:42 AM   #28382
Lexter
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Frostwolf (EU)
The first post has a typo I guess:
Spell Rotations->Explaind says:
If safe, Shadowflame should be used on cooldown while in melee range. However it is not worth running a long distance into melee range to do so. When the boss reaches 20% HP, begin to use Shadowburn on cooldown.
Shadowburn is not available as affliction Warlock.

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Old 12/05/11, 5:09 AM   #28383
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Tauren Warrior
 
Korgath
i did notice an increase in percentage of our total dmg done. before the DW hot fix it was sitting around 6%. tonight in heroic fl i saw it was up to 9%. there may still be some hope for fury.

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Old 12/05/11, 6:05 AM   #28384
skiarr
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Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Originally Posted by Sedivel View Post
Hi guys, I respeced from Frost to Unholy for this patch.. and I have 1 question..
Do i need 26 expertise just like in Frost? Or am I supposed to reforge expertise to haste/crit?
I just deleted all my expertise reforges and have 18 exp (570).. So is it ok to go lower with exp and reforge it?
you don't need to reforge to exp. there is enough exp on the gear to get you statisfied.

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Old 12/05/11, 8:05 AM   #28385
fateswarm
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Lightning's Blade (EU)
The situation might be simple, or rather basic, in that internally, Ignite inherits the damage of crits from their base damage, before they are modified, and their modifiers are the ones Ignite itself has. i.e. a crit of a fireball might be a modified fireball that was doubled, but an Ignite to be based on a double fireball that was modified by the effects on Ignite.

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Old 12/05/11, 10:57 AM   #28386
Rheavon
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Orc Rogue
 
Stonemaul
I mentioned this earlier in the thread but I think it might have gotten missed. Is there any chance at including receiving Unholy Frenzy on the Other section in Settings?

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Old 12/05/11, 11:53 AM   #28387
kuldesjokk
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Anyone got some thoughts on whats the BiS weapons for SMF?
and maybe how it compares to TG now?

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Old 12/05/11, 12:54 PM   #28388
Sotakiehkura
 
Undead Warlock
 
Sunstrider (EU)
Yo! Which 2 of these trinkets should I use? Soul Casket, Darkmoon Card: Volcano and Foul Gift of the Demon Lord. I'm destruction Warlock.
- Thanks

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Old 12/05/11, 1:24 PM   #28389
Bonzoe
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Undead Rogue
 
Uldaman
How much agility before sub starts to win?

If I load my character up in shadowcraft I always get combat ahead of sub, which is not surprising due to my moderate gear level. If I load up Aldriana or similarly geared rogues I see sub ahead by 1k dps or more, also not surprising. My question is where is the cross-over point in gear (mainly agility) when sub takes the lead? If I change my weapons to the P1 legendaries I get almost equal dps estimates, so I know it must be in the neighborhood of 5200 agility.

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Old 12/05/11, 2:04 PM   #28390
Luucem
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Dwarf Warrior
 
Hyjal
Edit: ran 50k iterarions and had similar ressults.

haste at 0.4647
mastery at 0.3799

But this has happened before with simcraft, it did the same thing last tier. I do not trust it to say haste is better than mastery

Last edited by Luucem : 12/05/11 at 2:44 PM.

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Old 12/05/11, 2:52 PM   #28391
Brindlegum
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Orc Warlock
 
Nordrassil
please delete

Last edited by Brindlegum : 12/05/11 at 3:19 PM. Reason: Trinket simulation is only for procs

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Old 12/05/11, 3:21 PM   #28392
Hinenuitepo
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Orc Death Knight
 
Frostwolf
Originally Posted by skiarr View Post
you don't need to reforge to exp. there is enough exp on the gear to get you statisfied.
'Statisfied,' I like it.

By this he means that you can most likely reforge expertise off of almost any piece that has it to a more useful stat like haste or crit. I've reforged it off all my current gear and am at ~15 expertise. If you notice to many dodges you may want to be a little higher, but generally it's not an issue.

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Old 12/05/11, 3:41 PM   #28393
Archkingoula
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Alonsus (EU)
I might be out of topic but i am kinda troubled all this time and it may be referred somewhere else so plz excuse me ...
What are our Stats values? Meaning on which stat should we reforge as Arcanes ? I am kinda confused every time..Mastery Crit or Haste? plz provide me with some info ty

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Old 12/05/11, 4:10 PM   #28394
HunterBE
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Shu'halo
crit to haste

when I reforge crit to haste my healing actually slows down and I can't keep up with the damage being taken by group. ????
any 1 have an answer?

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Old 12/05/11, 6:08 PM   #28395
cutterx2202
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Human Warrior
 
Gilneas
Ssateneth, that was very useful information, thank you.

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