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Old 12/05/11, 8:21 PM   #28396
Faxmonkey
Piston Honda
 
Troll Mage
 
Blackrock
Those of you who are still sticking it out as Arcane should be warned that I recently discovered a bug with Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest that causes it to *not work at all* in Arcane spec. It would seem that, at present, the staff *only* procs from DoTs. If you have the staff and recent arcane combat log parses from the past day or two, by all means go check it out for yourself. I don't know when this bug was added (might have been via a hotfix to something else), but it was present in all the December 4th logs that I checked.

As much as I'd like to hope that Blizzard has already hotfixed this issue by the time you read this, my guess is they'll probably drag their feet for a bit. Just something to keep in mind . . .

Edit: Leaving this post in tact so the posts below me don't look confusing, but obviously I was wrong!

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Old 12/05/11, 8:28 PM   #28397
Esarael
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Azralon
Well, from my personal tests on Ice Lance spam, this is not the case.

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Old 12/05/11, 8:45 PM   #28398
GameTilDeath
Glass Joe
 
冰血飄搖
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Quel'dorei
I've got a question that might be irrelevent to this thread, but I don'n know where to go. In the encounter of Madness of DW, we go with the order of red->green->yellow->blue, and we've been constantly having the problem of me killed by melee attack of Mutated Corruption on the 4th platform. We're sure it's not because of over threat, and every time a melee attack of 90k damage immediate after a Crush of 70k killed me (frost DK) all of a sudden, and we have no idea what went wrong and have no idea how to deal with it. It happened three times, exactly the same. Is it a bug or something? Can someone help?

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Old 12/05/11, 9:21 PM   #28399
Faxmonkey
Piston Honda
 
Troll Mage
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Esarael View Post
Well, from my personal tests on Ice Lance spam, this is not the case.
Hmm, that's interesting. I didn't test Ice Lance. I only concluded that it was a DoT vs Direct Damage thing after seeing how accross multiple logs the proc only accounted for ~2% of most fire mages damage and for mages who were both fire/arcane, it wasn't proccing at all in Arcane spec. And my own personal target dummy tests showed 0 procs in Arcane after a long, long sustained period of casting and only procs of dots while in fire spec.

I could be mistaken on exactly the nature of the issue, but there's definitely still an issue unless Blizzard was amazingly fast to hotfix it (I only reported it 12 hours ago).

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Old 12/05/11, 9:29 PM   #28400
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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Night Elf Monk
 
Stormrage
You realize the "Wrath of Tarecgosa" spell is only the proc from DoTs, and that direct damage procs show up as whatever got copied, right? Arcane will never see "Wrath of Tarecgosa", but that doesn't mean it's not working for them.

Rawr!

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Old 12/05/11, 9:35 PM   #28401
Faxmonkey
Piston Honda
 
Troll Mage
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Esarael View Post
Well, from my personal tests on Ice Lance spam, this is not the case.
You are correct. Please disregard. I did not realize that the staff only procced as Arcane damage when it was duplicating DoTs and that for Direct Damage it literally copies the original spell with no indication of a proc. That certainly makes it hard to measure.

You realize the "Wrath of Tarecgosa" spell is only the proc from DoTs, and that direct damage procs show up as whatever got copied, right? Arcane will never see "Wrath of Tarecgosa", but that doesn't mean it's not working for them.
Yeah, I realize that now after retesting with Ice Lance. I feel silly. /emberassed.

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Old 12/05/11, 10:14 PM   #28402
Sillexi
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Bonechewer
Cort, with those weapon logs where does the heroic cleaver fit in on the sim. How big of an upgrade is the LFR souldrinker over our current weapons is what I am wondering.

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Old 12/05/11, 10:17 PM   #28403
StromKnight
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Eredar
4.3 Trinket Rundown

Here's a quick and Dirty List on Wowhead for Trinkets for that guy that asked for em.

Trinkets - Items - World of Warcraft

Mind you it doesn't take into account what your gear looks like or anything its just a copy paste from the gear stat weights on this post.

I personally feel like my rotation feels weird without hitting the hit/exp cat and tend to value gear like

http://www.wowhead.com/item=58180 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=59224 over the higher ilvl Str w/ Crit or Haste trinks but I suppose Ill have to start weaning myself off of them and getting used to a non hit/exp item in the future,

I just bought http://www.wowhead.com/item=70141 and received http://www.wowhead.com/item=72899 in a pug.

Working on getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=72901 and sticking with them two until I get that http://www.wowhead.com/item=77210 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=77205.

Unfortunately Firelands is dead with my guild and its a real shame now that we have the people and gear to tackle its heroic modes better (Getting a few sparses/items to try out for this Forum would rock)

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Old 12/05/11, 11:47 PM   #28404
Dokazil
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Stormreaver
I've been looking for awhile on forums and shadowcrafted it a bit. I received the axe from Madness of Deathwing. No'Kaled, the Elements of Death - Item - World of Warcraft I have the stage one legendary daggers and i'm wondering would the Axe and the OH dagger be better than both daggers for a combat rogue. Here's a link to my armory Dokazil @ Stormreaver - Game - World of Warcraft

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Old 12/06/11, 6:07 AM   #28405
Narå
 
Undead Warrior
 
Cho'gall (EU)
Hi,

I'm sorry 'cause I didn't read the entire topic yet but do you honestly think Arms Warrior still viable ?
I realy hate Fury gameplay but I can't let hundred or thousand of dps behind because of my hatred.
Moreover we have all buffs we need. so it won't be considered as an appreciation.

thanks

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Old 12/06/11, 6:35 AM   #28406
clowningaround
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Arygos
Am I wrong in saying that your wowhead list does not look at proc value? I ask this since [Fluid Death] is valued the same as [License to Slay], while [Eye of Unmaking] is not even on the list.

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Old 12/06/11, 7:11 AM   #28407
Alysana
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
I can't believe there are so many pages consisting of going DPS vs survival as a tank, and absolutely zero discussion of tips and tricks on how to reduce damage taken. No good use of mirror on certain fights? Safeguard? What are your take on the two new tank trinkets? Etc.

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Old 12/06/11, 7:35 AM   #28408
NextOne
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Throk'Feroth (EU)
Monday we cleaned the Dragon Soul 10N. So I could tried the 2pc T13 / 2pc T12 with full mastery and new template. Here is some feedbacks:

- BM is lower than SV
- This is caused by many mouvement the pet has to performed.
- And there is still few pet bugs (stay, do nothing, can't attack, ...)
- With only 2pc T13 the casting of CoS is really slow (even if we get more focus) I really think Pathing 3/3 is a must have.
- KillShot glyph is also a must have, I think it is better than SerpentSting (like it is said in Paragon guide)
- The 2pc T12 proc is off-course less used.

So in a real fight with movement, the haste/mastery ratio is more tight and I think Blizzard should find a way to improve pet's dps in this situation (very common in Dragon Soul).

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Old 12/06/11, 7:57 AM   #28409
Arqentum
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Warrior
 
Термоштепсель (EU)
Originally Posted by Narå View Post
Do you honestly think Arms Warrior still viable ?
I realy hate Fury gameplay but I can't let hundred or thousand of dps behind because of my hatred.
Moreover we have all buffs we need. so it won't be considered as an appreciation.
Arms was viable the entire Cataclysm and even became stronger.

Also read this: The Stigma Regarding Arms Warriors and comments (c) Rynok. 'Nuff said.

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Old 12/06/11, 9:54 AM   #28410
Halle
Von Kaiser
 
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Worgen Death Knight
 
Alonsus (EU)
Originally Posted by Sillexi View Post
Cort, with those weapon logs where does the heroic cleaver fit in on the sim. How big of an upgrade is the LFR souldrinker over our current weapons is what I am wondering.
Simcrafting T12 BiS set gives me: 37178.6 DPS
Simcrafting T12 BiS set replacing cleavers with LFR Souldrinkers (and adjusting reforge) gives me: 37138.9 DPS

Concluding that LFR Souldrinkers are only worth it if you don't have heroic cleavers already.

[edit] This kind of info is readily available to anyone though. Grab yourself a download of Simcraft and run the numbers!

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