Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1895

Kablanka · 12/06/11, 11:30 AM

Ive always been Frost 2H Spec (I know laugh all you want) for our 10man even know it's not optimal compared to DW (5k Difference) and 2H Unholy but I'm always top DPS for our 10man group and we progress fairly quick (FL Heroic 5/7 and DS 7/8). Plus we've had bad luck on 1H weapons dropping.

Is there a rotation difference for Masterfrost between 2H or DW? Also does the BiS gear change from normal Frost Spec?

Hoipolloi · 12/06/11, 1:49 PM

Ok. I'm simply adding 10 haste to my rating numbers to account for it and it seems to. If the rounding doesn't scale with haste is it safe to assume we can just add 10 haste to the calculations and the result is correct? (works at 195->2005 and 1576->1585)

I've also switched my mage to herbology to grab the 480 haste cd. This let's me run with 1100 haste and dump the rest in crit while still achieving the 13 combustion ticks. Rawr doesn't have a way to model this however I've seen a substantial increase in my dps (2K) by doing this; well worth the 40 int it seems.

snowsed341 · 12/06/11, 3:44 PM

Would i drop glyph of oblit for glyph of IT, do i need to be spell hit capped also, so my hbs dont miss! Should i drop my 4set t12 to use mastery pieces which i have in my bank. Also is souldrinker better than hand of morchok for masterfrost build. My guild wants me to try it out, your help would be much appreciated!

Also trying to figure out the rotation, see alot of conflicting reports!

I was wondering how much i use oblit in the rotation and do you use this to get rime procs on hb!

capten · 12/06/11, 4:19 PM

As a human, would the +3 expertise push normal souldrinker past heroic hand of morchok?

Draklian · 12/06/11, 5:52 PM

Originally Posted by sp00n

So I just had a chat with a GM about two different topics. Yes, I know that GM's aren't necessarily the best source of information, but often they are the only ones until a blue posting appears.

It's currently entirely possible that only 1 Elementium Gem Cluster drops in a 25man raid instead of 2. The GM wasn't sure if this was intended or not and said that the question is currently being forwarded to the developers, with no answer so far. He said that I should wait for a blue post to clear up the situation, but that most likely there will not be any kind of refund if it actually was a bug.
There are several heroic (and raid finder) version of items that are bought with Valor Points (such as [Cameo of Terrible Memories] or [Belt of Hidden Keys]). I specifically asked (multiple times) if those would be available to players, in contrary to those items that were included in Firelands and supposedly should have been Crystallized Firestone gear, but never made it in the actual game.
He assured me that these items were in the game and could be looted by players, and also that those would come directly through loot and not through some sort of token system.

Screenshots (in German):
Elementium Gem Clusters
Heroic Valor Items

Would it Be possible to get a confirm/deny on the heroic versions of Valor items? With heroic content released I am expecting several guilds to be progressing through the first few bosses. It helps with gearing choices and how valor is spent.

omie · 12/06/11, 6:01 PM

Originally Posted by capten

As a human, would the +3 expertise push normal souldrinker past heroic hand of morchok?

Has this not already been discussed in this thread?

capten · 12/06/11, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by omie

Has this not already been discussed in this thread?

You mind quoting the post? If it has been discussed, im not seeing it.

Bartuc · 12/07/11, 4:39 AM

I'm actually in a dilemma right in regards to running the double 2p bonus for t12 and t13. My main issue is that I have a) the LFR tier and b) its the helm and gloves. I would be replacing heroic tier 12 in both slots, and I have to wonder if the loss of raw stats and ratings would be made up for in t13 2p bonus. It would be a no brainer if it was regular t13 or even the LFR versions of the shoulders and chest due to the extra sockets.

I've ran it through the sims in both simcraft and Enhsim, but apparently simming LFR gear is equivalent to dividing by zero.

On a unrelated note, I was able to pick up Heroic Vial of Shadows tonight, and the boost is pretty substantial. It scales on a straight 1 to 1 attack power ratio, is able to crit and the heroic version starts at a higher base damage. Heroic Vial coupled with my Wrath of Unchaining is just silly damage, and I am fully confident saying that the pair is BiS.

Xoui · 12/07/11, 4:54 AM

Hi there,

our server on europe is going online right at the moment i write this post. my guild will start progressing tonight i am still unsure which item i should buy with my rogue. Boots and Bracer (i got the crafted ones anyways) are boe => i can get with my twink, but which one you buy with your rogue?

Cabal · 12/07/11, 6:11 AM

Interested in hearing what valor points gear are you buying first? I´m probably going for the cloak first, but I´ve been known to mess up on this sort of thing

Serivola · 12/07/11, 6:47 AM

First week Thrown second week Back will result in biggest upgrades (compared to T12 BiS). After then it's Waist>Chest>Neck>Ring, but it really depends on what you have already optained. The Feet are an upgrade too, but since they are BoE it is recommended to buy them with an alt or via auction house.

Trouble29 · 12/07/11, 7:03 AM

Just a suggestion for the BiS list. wouldnt

Zeherah's Dragonskull Crown - Item - World of Warcraft

Be the best offset piece? not sure if this is upgradable at all, but atleast as a normal version it would be best choice until heroic head piece

Seerge · 12/07/11, 8:15 AM

i see alot of new rotations being added but not a stable standard 1. is there such a thing atm?
Sry if this was answered before but can't seem to find anything
Cheers

Mönny · 12/07/11, 8:48 AM

Really depends on what item is the biggest upgrade for you. But lets say you've got all bis pre DS, then Id go for the BoP neck if I were you.

Xoui · 12/07/11, 8:51 AM

Yes, i got BiS Gear on every Slot. Ragnaros Heroic Neck - Point Neck ist a really weak Upgrade. Shadowcraft tells me, that the Trinket (i got Domo HC, Ragna NHC) would give me at least 700 dps - but i cant believe its true