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Old 12/13/11, 12:40 AM   #28516
ZelosRaine
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Ysondre
@mightymax474, while I appreciate your interest in these forums, this is not a place for those questions. Please keep the discussion on endgame min/maxing. Yes, I am being an "elitist jerk."

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Old 12/13/11, 4:34 AM   #28517
Pherlin
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Worgen Warlock
 
Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by Twinkielock View Post
I have a quesiton about the haste rating of 1573 for the mid level gear. Is this number true also for Goblins or would it be lower?
The rating for goblins for this would be 1431, there is a table listed lower in the first post which lists all of the goblin equivalents for the different threshholds.

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Old 12/13/11, 6:37 AM   #28518
pulshu
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Undead Warrior
 
Stormreaver (EU)
*deleted wrong thread*

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Old 12/13/11, 11:10 AM   #28519
Boneboxerz
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Goblin Death Knight
 
Al'Akir (EU)
so im running with 2* Heroic [Obsidium Cleaver] was thinking what is best 2* Heroic [Hand of Morchok] or 2* Normal [Souldrinker] at this point? cant find the numbers anywhere

Last edited by Boneboxerz : 12/13/11 at 1:29 PM.

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Old 12/13/11, 2:06 PM   #28520
Fairyonfire
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Blackmoore (EU)
In all 3 guides, it says, that Hagaras Staff is BiS nhc and hc, is Ti'Tahk close to that, so with the buff for the raid, it can perform equally well? Is there a ranking for all available DS-Weapons (nhc and hc) that I can trust more than the ranks from guildox, mr.robot and others?

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Old 12/13/11, 2:52 PM   #28521
Evilshade
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Hakkar
another Question if i may. Kneebreaker boots Vp boots. vs. regular treads of crushed flesh of warlord.

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Old 12/13/11, 3:02 PM   #28522
Simplereally
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Orc Shaman
 
Quel'Thalas (EU)
Originally Posted by Ilyawen View Post
Thank you for explaining the mage to me. I also recently noticed that AB wasnt a fire spell. Now, back on topic, I tried some very rough calculations:

Given a normal gearset, stacking up the buff should take around 13 seconds with AB. In this time as fire I would cast ~6 fireballs and a HS-Pyro, adding up to a generous value of 350.000 DMG. I would have triggered my Combustion at ~3 Stacks of my setbonus, resulting in a CD-reduction of 10 seconds.

Casting the 10 Arcane Blasts during this time would get me ~200.000 DMG. I would have 10 stacks of my setbonus, resulting in a CD-reduction of 50 seconds. Taking another few seconds to ramp um a combustion reduces this to effectively ~38 seconds.

This means I have to weigh the ~150.000 DMG lost against the value of having:
- Combustion available ~28 seconds earlier the second time.
- Reliably having stacking trinkets activated for Combustion (relevant in this content).
- Proccing trinkets might go either way, proccing the first 10 seconds (bad) or after (good).
- Having the 500 haste available during Combustion, gaining either 1 tick (if you dont have 2005 on gear) or freeing up 500 haste to be reforged (if you have them right now).
- Apart from Combustion, higher uptime of the bonus, slightly increasing the value of the 2pc.

This so far is radically speculative. My guess would be that it would likely be valuable if 28-30 seconds less CD on Combustion actually gain you another cast of Combustion, this obviously depending on fight length. Also, 500 statpoints freed up in a way seem decent. Stacking again after the initial Combustion would obviously be less effective, unless bad RNG doesnt let you stack the buff till the cooldown comes up again.
I think you will oom so fast It's not even funny, I'm already finding mana very tight on most non-patchwerk fights.

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Old 12/13/11, 6:40 PM   #28523
Makall
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Dragonblight
Is [Creche of the Final Dragon] better than [License to Slay] (normal ilvl 359) or [Heart of Rage] (normal ilvl 359)?

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Old 12/13/11, 8:25 PM   #28524
jkalana
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Goblin Death Knight
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Boneboxerz View Post
so im running with 2* Heroic [Obsidium Cleaver] was thinking what is best 2* Heroic [Hand of Morchok] or 2* Normal [Souldrinker] at this point? cant find the numbers anywhere
guess you didnt look very hard, check out post 285 and 296 they'll give you a rough estimate, but as always use sims to work it against your current gear

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Old 12/13/11, 10:40 PM   #28525
turbozmike
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
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Last edited by turbozmike : 12/13/11 at 10:58 PM.

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Old 12/14/11, 2:31 AM   #28526
beckeychen
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Draenei Hunter
 
Antonidas
i found a good site to buy gold . its SPAM > Home , very helpful for me to start with ^^

Last edited by Jessamy : 12/14/11 at 7:13 AM.

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Old 12/14/11, 5:04 AM   #28527
Ghazzy
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Goblin Rogue
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
I was checking the logs, i did more Eviscerates then Ambushes (% dmg wise) so i will change that glyph, and check it out at least.

Tonights raid i will test the hemo rotation just for the bleed. See if it is any increase.

Last edited by Ghazzy : 12/14/11 at 6:35 AM.

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Old 12/14/11, 7:53 AM   #28528
cynortas
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Human Paladin
 
Aszune (EU)
Thanks all for taking time to explain, those are all valid points.

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Old 12/14/11, 8:28 AM   #28529
BopMajster
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Draenei Priest
 
Kazzak (EU)
with new gear we can reach 1.33 cast time for SS and CoS, if we specc improved Steady Shot in mm tree..


What about SS-SS-CoS-AS-ES rotation?

1.33+1.33+1.33+1+1=6 sec.

Anyone test this rotation?

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Old 12/14/11, 9:00 AM   #28530
kubasniak
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Undead Rogue
 
Burning Legion (EU)
I have a question, I've got now these rings:
Alurmi's Ring - Item - World of Warcraft and Splintered Brimstone Seal - Item - World of Warcraft

I've got in bag this one Mannoroth's Signet - Item - World of Warcraft

And I can buy for VP Emergency Descent Loop - Item - World of Warcraft


Now which of these I have to change? Should I upgrade Alurmi's Ring - Item - World of Warcraft for Emergency Descent Loop - Item - World of Warcraft or change Splintered Brimstone Seal - Item - World of Warcraft to Emergency Descent Loop - Item - World of Warcraft (-140 crit, +182 haste)?

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