What he means to say is : The CS proc on the 4pc T13 bonus is not applying the Glyph's effect, i.e applying a stack of Sunder Armor.

I think this is due to the fact that the 4pc bonus doesn't actually cast the skill CS, but rather simply applies the debuff. Remember, Colossus Smash has 2 parts : One is the damage that CS actually inflicts on the target, and the other is the 100% armor ignoring debuff. So, what the 4pc bonus does is only the second effect and not the first, and I'm assuming that the glyph activates only if CS lands on the target (i.e the damage), and since the damage never occurs(or rather CS itself is actually not cast), Sunder Armor is also not applied on the target.

The best solution is to monitor the stacks of Sunder Armor using an Addon like NeedToKnow and using a Sunder Armor or CS every 30 seconds. Sunder Armor should be usable at some point in a spare GCD.

Tooltips are always misleading. Testing it out shows the real truth.

Really no changes for 4.3, ups in mastery, other priority otr template changes or any subtle thing I would have missed ?

Thnx Kaljurei, it makes sense.

okay i understand. in my fight he resets and because of this i cant finish him. Crap :/

Is Shadowcraft modeling Wrath of Unchaining correctly? The raid finder version is ranked below even the Hurricane Card on Shadowcraft and from everything else I've seen it's actually a pretty good trinket for us.

hey, was checking out the [No'Kaled, the Elements of Death]-normal ilvl 403 and [Morningstar of Heroic Will] - heroic version ilvl 410. According to Shadowcraft it says that the mace from ultraxion ( [Morningstar of Heroic Will] - heroic ilvl 410) is worse than the normal axe from madness of deathwing (No'Kaled that is). Both maxdmg, lowdamage and statwize its worse, can the procc be that superior? Or is it just a slight misstake on Shadowcraft?

what enchs wud u recommend?

ino head and shoulder, not to sure bout the rest :S

Hi.
I´m new to Solo old stuff and i thought its time to visit bt.
the Kill list says Reliquary of Souls was done solo.But how?Any tips or a good video,found nothing on youtube.

i read the last 2 pages and i have to be honest i am kinda split between whats better with 4p t13, haste or mastery as prio?
Because as someone already said in other post, as a frost dk played in FL, after lost the 2p t12, there sometimes in boss fight like 3-4 sec doing auto atack cause no RP and runes. As far as i can see the skill prio are a bit dif, okay, but right now, there is any prove with 4p t13 haste better or masteryfrost gives higher dps usage?

btw can someone tell me one thing, while masteryfrost, use frost or uholy presence, frost right? ( sry if its kind wtf question but its just to be sure xD )

I've also been told by shadowcraft the same thing that and it says the daggers are like one of the lowest weapons for DPS in the game which i dont believe

i thought not. following on then, the 'rotation' i generally use (using the term lightly) is to use bloodthirst a lot, and colossus smash on every CD, then to basically hit everything that procs as it does. (slam, raging blow etc). Cleave and whirlwind being the basic abilities used for groups. and of course, execute spam once a boss reaches 20% health...

it has been mentioned to me that cleave is better than heroic strike even against single mobs, as a ragedump, due to the stacking ability that gives cleave and whirlwind a damage bonus, is this true?

tl:dr version:

what's a good rotation for fury (titan grip) warriors.
is cleave better than heroic strike due to the cleave/ww buff?