I posted a bug about this with Aldriana about a week and a half ago. His/Her response was that it has been updated in a version that hasn't been pushed to the site yet. (Edit to add: This has something to do with how the procs on the trinket are calculated according to Aldriana's response.) I checked github and noticed that the version mentioned isn't checked in there yet. I'm assuming this is a version that is likely local rather than published.

It seems no changes have been pushed/pulled since early December (Dec 8th, to be exact). I'd say give Aldriana time to deal with holiday stuff before declaring anything on the site gospel.

*Looks at calendar*

OK, I guess I can wait another week for your solution.

Hi.

Can someone clarify couple of things. Compared to caster we dont have haste/crit cap, but how does the scaling look like - or putting it in other words what would be (with current gear) optimal stats sub rogue should look for?

40% cirt (UB) - worth going more? basically we got 100% crit on ambush and +/- 80-85% crit on BS
20-25% haste (UB) - worth going more than that? Or is it time to get a bit more into hit since after BS dmg most our dmg comes from melee attacks.

LAst thing you ever use cp while dance or just pure ambush spam?

I think that all of this questions have been already answered in this topic but Haste > crit~expertise (expertise provide cycle stability). According to Pathal's math, crit only devaluate by 2% after 40% crit chance so going crit is still worth it. To finish, there is no haste cap and yes while ShD you spend all your cp to whatever finisher is your actual priority : refresh rupture (which was putted with MoS and eventually with pots) with evi > SnD > recup.

Hi,

I'm just wondering something about haste.


Should I cut it off at 2681(2527gob) or go for more haste ? I heard i should keep stacking haste but we cant reach any other extra tick, so ...why ?

Azuli,
Cheers, still I enjoy stance dancing as a arms, having more fun than playing boring fury.

Thanks.

Went over the topic once more, found some info but still lack of info on haste. Especially haste vs X% of crit, haste vs. x% of hit (taking into consideration melee attacks are just a bit behind BS dmg).
Wouldn't mind simply copy stats/gear etc of some high end rogue but 99% of the are combat.

eidt: or let me put it this way - say we got UB 42% crit, 20% haste 10% hit, 18/18 exp. With additional items we will obtain additional 3% crit. But I feel like if we could convert those 3% crit into either haste or hit, it would benefit our dps more. The question is, which would benefit more hit or haste?

So on the topic of spine, are the Valor trinket on uses going to surpass the proc trinkets? So buying the valor trinket to in my case replace my matrix

That's actually answered in the OP. The stat weight of Haste is far higher than that of White Hit and considerably higher than Spell Hit. Moving as much of that into Haste will always be your best bet since Haste will benefit you in more areas by increasing both white and yellow dmg as well as further rotation stability.

Sorry if this has been asked before. I was lucky enough to see the glove token drop tonight, taking me to t13 4-set (but breaking my t12 2-set in equipping it.) Shadowcraft is showing ~800 dps drop if I use the 4-set, is this correct / expected, since it sounds rather a lot?

You want to be at the spell hit cap which is 17% so your poisons don't miss. You'll never hit the white hit cap so don't worry about that.