Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1916

iddqd84 · 01/04/12, 10:46 AM

That is not possible if you have above 0 latency.

Treen · 01/04/12, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ran Newman

It's very nice everyone agree about it, but maybe someone can actually provide logical explention that shows why losing 33% (1.5 seconds) of MS CD is worse then losing 40% of MS damage (during CS).

it's normal here... But rly its not true with ms>cs without 4-piece. u dont need 0 delay.. its 1.5seconds, u must just focus to dont delay ready MS.. some math about it: total cd of Ms - 6.5 sec, when u use cs before ready ms, ull delay 1sec. When is your avg non crit dmg with MS 30k, that means ull loose with usin cs before ms smthn about 5k dmg . When u use ms before cs, that means u can't use 2times MS durin cs debuff - ull loose 40% damage of 1ms . Again with 30k base dmg ull loose 12k dmg. So finally its 12:5 for usin CS BEFORE MS.

Remember this is not true when uve T13 4piece.

Auron · 01/04/12, 1:07 PM

Again since you use CS, then there is a 1.5sec GCD before you use MS you will not get the 2nd MS in unless you have zero latency which is not possible.

Treen · 01/04/12, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by Auron

Again since you use CS, then there is a 1.5sec GCD before you use MS you will not get the 2nd MS in unless you have zero latency which is not possible.

thats nnot about latency.. thats just about preclick

Auron · 01/04/12, 2:46 PM

you cant preclick an ability that is on CD

Bruisefest · 01/04/12, 2:52 PM

Regarding trinkets for arms. Acknowledging that the preferred way to fly is Eye of Unmaking + Bonelink Fetish / Creche (depending on fight) if you are having crap loot luck such as myself, what is the preferred setup for single target.

Currently, I've been running [Eye of Unmaking] + 397 [Bone-Link Fetish](403/397). Bonelink ww proc accounts for roughly 2.5-3% of my damage as a rule on single target fights. The question is, would it be worth it to take the hit in strength to gain the added crit from [Vessel of Acceleration] or [Apparatus of Khaz'goroth] on single target fights?

Fights that I'm concerned about are H Zon'zozz and H Hagara where there are parts where you'd prefer to be able to control your burst vs H Yor'sahj where Bonelink is 5.5-6% of my damage.

Henqetnetjer · 01/04/12, 9:08 PM

Have seen back and forth information on the issue but wondering if there is math out there on the dual wielding Gurth.
I am currently using the reg Gurth and reg Atraxis (forged to hit). I am at 18.82% hit atm.
I just won the roll on an lfr Gurth now.

Would dual wielding Gurths give me a higher output than Atraxis?
LS spreadsheet says no but I am assuming that is because it's not taking into account the proc.

IF dual wielding is the answer, would it be reg in MH and lfr in OH?

Thank you for any advice and fantastic information here, as always.

EDIT : Also if anyone runs dual wielding in this situation and has a wol I can comb through, that would be perfect as well.

Glurak · 01/04/12, 9:38 PM

chardev 9

i think this is perfekt

Kisko · 01/04/12, 10:47 PM

Gurthalak is dead. It's on CNN guys.

Oh and Ret is a the bottom of dps again if you missed it.

cidica · 01/05/12, 2:04 AM

Originally Posted by Viveras

From frontpage of MMO-C (Patch 4.3.2 Items): "The most significant item change was [Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps] having the proc time increased to 12 seconds from 10 seconds. This change was made to all three versions of the item."

2 seconds added to the proc yet As of tonight in a few randoms I barely even saw 1 proc every 5-10 minutes. The sword is now done for with me unless they reverse the SoT "fix" they put in place for ret with it. My guild's already ready to hand me the 2h Axe from Yor'sahj Heroic when it drops cause of the change alone.

Kisko said it best It's dead.

Nooblender · 01/05/12, 3:51 AM

Edit: Double post, sorry.

nephyron · 01/05/12, 6:57 AM

the perfect mix for the t13 bonus since they want it to play with starsurge (without making us loose too much because of t12 bonus) is something along the line of:
"increase the %chance to proc of your euphoria and shooting stars by x%"

charred · 01/05/12, 1:18 PM

While trying to find out the optimal firemage weapon outside of tarecgosa (obv), I came across the following dilemma;

Where exactly does +spdmg fit in, when talking about statvalues?
As of now, I believe it is:
Int > hit till cap > haste till optimal cap > crit > haste > mastery ?
Not sure how highly i should value raw sp in this list.

Makawk · 01/05/12, 1:54 PM

I have recently acquired enough gear to be unable to reach the preferred haste cap (916)

Just wondering what is the optimal reforge:

A) To reach the next haste break point (2005)

B) Have around (13XX) haste, and keep my reforge to optimize a mastery build

I raid 10 man's and we are progressing slowly into heroic modes
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imotép · 01/05/12, 5:50 PM

i read all post about DS normal/heroic and the conclusion is: Agi+Sta is better to all modes of DS.
With a good trinkets combinations and FR +4set bonus.
is correct say mastery don't give a good result than priority dodge?