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Old 01/07/12, 8:46 PM   #28771
Naumu
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Area 52
@itzFrank - You use Explosive Trap solely on Yor'sahj, since he never moves - at least on normal. You get more LNL procs, and thus more damage. It doesn't matter if you get black everytime, or never get black, it's still better since he literally never (needs to, anyway) moves on normal.

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Old 01/08/12, 4:00 AM   #28772
Eatmyfarts
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Archimonde
I just have a few questions for all of you PRO warriors out there. Im currently 7/8 DS normal, based on my gear I figured i would be doing alot more dps im usually 25k or so on a boss. My rotation is pre-pot charge, rend, CS, MS, OP and age dump HS. Im in dire need of help, with macros, a better rotation, or any tips or tricks Here is my armory link please help

Eatmyfarts @ Archimonde - Game - World of Warcraft

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Old 01/08/12, 8:16 AM   #28773
fearlesslord
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Burning Blade
Originally Posted by Willowwand View Post
I cannot figure out why my dps is so low at my item level i had a good grasp of wotl but cata has me so turned around my warlock is the worst dps in every encounter on every boss in every raid . . .

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

that is the world of logs for last nights fights.

armory: Pinkerbél @ Kil'jaeden - Game - World of Warcraft

if you can help i would greatly appreciate anythign you can offer.
profuse thanks
You only had about a 35% to 48% uptime with Improved Soul Fire through your attempts so you were doing 8% less damage for about half the fight. If you are going to run destro you need to make sure you maintain that buff.

You have to hard cast soul fire every 20 seconds unless you get a empowered imp proc. You cant depend on that proc to go off often enough to keep the buff up.

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Old 01/08/12, 9:05 AM   #28774
_Ikar
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
Originally Posted by Eatmyfarts View Post
I just have a few questions for all of you PRO warriors out there. Im currently 7/8 DS normal, based on my gear I figured i would be doing alot more dps im usually 25k or so on a boss. My rotation is pre-pot charge, rend, CS, MS, OP and age dump HS. Im in dire need of help, with macros, a better rotation, or any tips or tricks Here is my armory link please help

Eatmyfarts @ Archimonde - Game - World of Warcraft
Start using slam, when MS/CS/OP is not available

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Old 01/08/12, 12:37 PM   #28775
unisonicz
 
Worgen Mage
 
Cenarius
Hi, I have a quick question, I have looked through about 7 pages of this thread and have not seen what I am looking for.

I have 4 set T12 that I am using currently. I am using RF T13 Legs and I have normal T13 Hands in my bags.

My question is, is 2 set T13 better than 4 set T12? IMO T13 Hands are not optimal as far as stats go.

Frækz @ Galakrond - Game - World of Warcraft

Thanks

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Old 01/08/12, 7:44 PM   #28776
Incognieto
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Mage
 
Aman'Thul
Originally Posted by unisonicz View Post
Hi, I have a quick question, I have looked through about 7 pages of this thread and have not seen what I am looking for.

I have 4 set T12 that I am using currently. I am using RF T13 Legs and I have normal T13 Hands in my bags.

My question is, is 2 set T13 better than 4 set T12? IMO T13 Hands are not optimal as far as stats go.

Frækz @ Galakrond - Game - World of Warcraft

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For fire, 4P T12 is far more powerful than 2P T13. The extra chance for Hot Streak to proc far out weighs the haste provided by the 2p T13 until you can get your 4P T13.

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Old 01/08/12, 11:01 PM   #28777
Baru
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Cenarius
I was wondering if Ember Shadowspirit Diamond becomes higher priority for Arcane at a specific mana amount? I am at 136k mana raid buffed pre-proccs and I was hoping one of the many math Gurus could work out if ever the 2% mana would be better then the 3% bonus crit dmg. Thank you

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Old 01/09/12, 12:47 AM   #28778
gabo03
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Ragnaros
Originally Posted by pichuca View Post
-Disable sting and CS during CA phase.
I cant find this option...

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Old 01/09/12, 3:43 AM   #28779
charred
Banned
 
Undead Mage
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by Incognieto View Post
For fire, 4P T12 is far more powerful than 2P T13. The extra chance for Hot Streak to proc far out weighs the haste provided by the 2p T13 until you can get your 4P T13.
That kinda depends on the ilvl of the pieces you are replacing/gaining. It was a slight dps increase for me when i got them.


Also 6% dmgnerf on PTR on fireball n pyro. Guess i can start farming shard of woe.

Last edited by charred : 01/09/12 at 4:41 AM.

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Old 01/09/12, 6:14 AM   #28780
Artzo
Glass Joe
 
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Human Mage
 
Ghostlands (EU)
Sigh...i really hope that nerf doesnt go through....why would they force us to go back to Arcane?...

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Old 01/09/12, 6:28 AM   #28781
Toriaa
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Al'Akir (EU)
hi,

i m testing around with the spreadsheet of landsoul. there is a field named "rotation + combat settings" where you can choose your off-bt priority.
normaly i use CS > BT > RB > Slam (TG-Rotation @ dropdown menu).
when you choose Custom and use the pre-filled custom ranks for off-bt you ll get CS > BT > Slam > Shout > RB and this combination are ~1k higher than the first one?!?

why?! i mean why prefer shout without 2t12 before RB? i tested it and RB do more dmg than slam, why should i prefer slam?!

any1 got an awnser, is my rotation wrong?

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Old 01/09/12, 7:15 AM   #28782
charred
Banned
 
Undead Mage
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by Artzo View Post
Sigh...i really hope that nerf doesnt go through....why would they force us to go back to Arcane?...
From a class specific pov, theyve said since cata fire is meant to be our "aoe" spec. So i guess it's a logical nerf when looking at it like that.
From a global pov it makes less sense. Fire mages might statistically be the number one atm, but:

1) Rogues dont have the legendary incorporated in their bis gear.
2) The fights in which fire mages excell in their "true" role boils down to one and a half (hagara 25 and yorsahj).
3) People often forget that fire is so terribly rng dependant. We easily go from hero to zero if rng isnt in our favor. Our 2Pt13 gave us even more rng to rage about as fire. When ppl check wol, they see mages on top of fights like ultrax n dont know better. It's like a friend linking me some absurd magelog from ultraxion & going "how the fuck is that even possible", only to find that the mage in question had 68% of his fireballs crit

Anyhow i really wouldnt mind arcane as much if it wasnt for the fact that 85% of our dps comes from spamming a single button & mobility is non existant in that spec. Plus the fact that a trinket from 2 raiding tiers before is still breaks it so badly. Which actually brings up another question, whether post nerf fire is better than non-sow arcane.
If it wasnt for SoW, fire would still be the number one spec for a mage & post this nerf it'd be more in line with other specs (it's still true that fire was ahead a little to much statisticly compared to other classes except, most likely, legendary rogues).

Last edited by charred : 01/09/12 at 7:30 AM.

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Old 01/09/12, 8:00 AM   #28783
Lillavarg
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Night Elf Druid
 
Balnazzar (EU)
I think I understand the softcap for haste wrong. I did read that you need 2005 haste but is that with or without raid buffs? I have 2015 haste rating without raid buffs when I check on my character ingame. So I want to know what haste rating I need unbuffed as an human fire mage, also numbers on what the cap will be with 2x T13, numbers and % will be enuff

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Old 01/09/12, 8:03 AM   #28784
MÃ nze
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Blackhand (EU)
new ptr-patch is up:
The Tier 13 Balance Druid 4-piece bonus now also increases the damage of Starsurge by 10%, in addition to its current effect.
Could someone provide some math on 4pc t12hc vs new 4pct13nh and hc? Still can't decide, then to switch sets.


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Old 01/09/12, 8:13 AM   #28785
charred
Banned
 
Undead Mage
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by Lillavarg View Post
I think I understand the softcap for haste wrong. I did read that you need 2005 haste but is that with or without raid buffs? I have 2015 haste rating without raid buffs when I check on my character ingame. So I want to know what haste rating I need unbuffed as an human fire mage, also numbers on what the cap will be with 2x T13, numbers and % will be enuff
Check the previous page for all caps.
Enter your gear through rawr. The optimal hastecap depends of your other gear and whether you get DI, but most likely it'll be 1505

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