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Old 01/11/12, 5:51 AM   #28816
Lineason
Glass Joe
 
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Worgen Warlock
 
Garrosh (EU)
Doomguard and 4p-T13-Bonus

Hi,

does the Doomguard takes a snapshot of the 4p-T13-Bonus or do I not have to time the Bonus with the Doomguard?
(because it scales actively or not at all)

Thanks,
Line

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Old 01/11/12, 9:00 AM   #28817
Fùmble
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Gnome Mage
 
Runetotem (EU)
Originally Posted by ertan View Post
my Roatation is pyroblast- livingbomb -flameorb -miror image- fireball ( all the time ) and when the hot streak happens ı press pyroblast again and when the all dots on the target ı press combustion
I think the bold part is your problem. Install an ignite monitoring add-on like combustion helper and use combustion when you get a big ignite, a stacking one if you can.

For stacking ignite you have to critically hit with a second crit before first ignite tick, eg. a critical fireball followed by a critical instant pyro.

Optimal use of combustion is a consistent part of fire dps.

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Old 01/11/12, 9:12 AM   #28818
Cuchi
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but [Kiroptyric Sigil] is rated below [Hungerer](Heroic) in EP, but on shadowcraft kirpotyric sigil is rated way above the hungerer, should I trust EP values or shadowcraft? Also worth mentioning that I do have engineering, which is affected by having a use trinket.

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Old 01/11/12, 9:33 AM   #28819
Leonlfd
 
Troll Warrior
 
Nera'thor (EU)
Hi guys.

Sorry for my stupidity but I have some tankquestions because I'm confused. :/
I normaly play DD but atm we miss a tank in our 25mann raid. So I to do this job for a while.

I read many posts and made this build but I am still confused with some facts.
This is my BIS-List.

Before you start with crying:
Yeah, I picked 2 Agiitems for more mastery. I am over the CTCcap so the missing strength(parry) wont hurt and I do not have any aggroproblems.
I am over the CTC-Cap, so I reforged my dodge into parry for more HtL-Uptime.


Could you help me with some of my questions plz?

1. Is there a minimum for Raidbuffed HP as warritank? or are 225+ enough for 25er HCraids?
(best example is madness: 25er NHC i need around 180k hp unbuffed, what for 25er HC?)

2. Is the critblockcap really at 85%?
(I´ve read some posts about that topic and wanted to know the truth: true or false )

3. When, yes, is it better to stop with 60%block and max. the avoid up to 42,4% for CTC and then stack stamina?
Or is it better to stack mastery for more critblocks (like I did)? Yeah, I know that there are many different views, but some advice would be nice.

Please help a stupid DD who has to tank.

mfg Leonlfd

Last edited by Leonlfd : 01/11/12 at 10:07 AM.

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Old 01/11/12, 10:00 AM   #28820
ertan
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Gnome Mage
 
Terokkar (EU)
thank you Fumble ı have combustion helper and My big ignite add ons maybe ım doing something wrong

Roatation is pyroblast- livingbomb -flameorb -miror image- fireball ( all the time ) and when the hot streak happens ı press pyroblast again and when the all dots on the target ı press combustion

after the combustion , should ı begin again with pyroblast as above ?

thank you

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Old 01/11/12, 10:25 AM   #28821
Generosus
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Orc Warrior
 
Ясеневый лес (EU)
Well, i am not really good with theorycraft, but my gut feeling never let me down. I believe that Gurthalak definitely does its best during heavy aoe fights like Yor'sadhj and will outperform the slicer.

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Old 01/11/12, 10:37 AM   #28822
Yarx
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Troll Hunter
 
Gul'dan (EU)
Patch 4.3 Hotfixes - January 9

"Vial of Shadows - Item - World of Warcraft proc damage should now be increased by ranged attack power for hunters. Get buffed/fixed

So my question is which trinkets are BiS now ?
a. Wrath of Unchaining - Item - World of Warcraft
b. Starcatcher Compass - Item - World of Warcraft
c. Vial of Shadows - Item - World of Warcraft

Femaledwarf (for my gear setup):

1. Vial of Shadows - Item - World of Warcraft 41194.56 DPS
2. Wrath of Unchaining - Item - World of Warcraft 41136.55 DPS
3. Starcatcher Compass - Item - World of Warcraft 40084.63 DPS

Last edited by Yarx : 01/11/12 at 10:52 AM.

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Old 01/11/12, 11:29 AM   #28823
Jarias
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Human Warrior
 
Doomhammer
I'm not entirely sure about that as yet. Yes logic leads to tons of attacks meaning more procs but I have yet to see blasting aoe actually result in a few extra tentacles rolling around. Next week on Yor'sahj I'm actually going to try switching to the axe for extra stats on said AoE. See what's what.

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Old 01/11/12, 11:33 AM   #28824
eatspie31
 
Worgen Warrior
 
Turalyon
will there be a BiS list up anytime soon for the current Tier?

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Old 01/11/12, 1:42 PM   #28825
redvendl
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Shadowmoon
Originally Posted by Runtime View Post
The problem with your tests is that your melee swings can skew the results. What we really need to see is how the proc works on the Isolated ability. You can achieve this by turning your character sideways since the window you can auto attack a target is smaller than the window you can use special abilities.
If someone would like to take the time to wait for a shout to come up and use that rage for 1000 BT's then they can go ahead. Thats the only way I can see you being able to run that test.

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Old 01/11/12, 3:24 PM   #28826
Abrabbor
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Mug'thol
Pyroblast should never be hard casted.

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Old 01/11/12, 3:34 PM   #28827
Hired2Kill
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Cho'gall
Ok guys I'm pretty confused with the trinkets i should be using. Idk if I should use this setup or another one plz help.

SETUP 1: Matrix Restabilizer(ilvl 384) and Kyroptyric Sigil(ilvl 397 on use proc)

or

Setup 2: Ancient Petrified Seed(ilvl 387 on use proc) and Kyroptyric Sigil(^) two on use trinkets

Im having a hard time to figure out what would be better.

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Old 01/11/12, 4:26 PM   #28828
GrayMatter
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Draenei Shaman
 
Auchindoun (EU)
Originally Posted by Hired2Kill View Post
Ok guys I'm pretty confused with the trinkets i should be using. Idk if I should use this setup or another one plz help.

SETUP 1: Matrix Restabilizer(ilvl 384) and Kyroptyric Sigil(ilvl 397 on use proc)

or

Setup 2: Ancient Petrified Seed(ilvl 387 on use proc) and Kyroptyric Sigil(^) two on use trinkets

Im having a hard time to figure out what would be better.
I am pretty sure that your first one will come out tops but you really need to sim it to be sure as it depends on your gear to a certain extent.

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Old 01/11/12, 4:52 PM   #28829
tenub
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Korgath
Can anyone help me to understand the latest PTR changes to fire (the nerfs)? Ie. what dps reduction this equates to and if it would ever finally be a viable alternative to go arcane on certain DS encounters such as h:ultraxion. I'm tired of this rng/luck-based damage because I am always extremely unlucky.

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Old 01/11/12, 5:35 PM   #28830
Dyminator
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Troll Druid
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by nse360 View Post
Also @Zenigen - you should RARELY be speccing Lunar Shower - it's generally considered a DPS loss for any fights with multi-dotting.
For fights where you wish to stay in Solar Eclipse for example, wouldn't Lunar Shower be a dps loss?
Spamming a few Sunfires would get you out of Solar Eclipse and decrease your AoE dps quite alot?
Or am i wrong?

And...anyone happens to have the haste breakpoints values lieing around?
With or without DI.
Most interested in the breakpoints previous to the 3102 breakpoint

Last edited by Dyminator : 01/12/12 at 2:00 AM.

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