Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1923

eatspie31 · 01/11/12, 8:53 PM

I am also at the point of wondering wether to keep stacking mastery for more crit block or to start staying just over the CTC cap and regemming or more dodge/parry/stam and would like some clarification from a more theorycraft savy protection warrior =)

Lymited · 01/11/12, 9:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dyminator

And...anyone happens to have the haste breakpoints values lieing around?
With or without DI.
Most interested in the breakpoints previous to the 3102 breakpoint

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the breakpoints are as follows:

With DI+NG, the last reachable breakpoint that matters is ~2639.
With just nature's grace, the breakpoints that are reachable are ~1924 and ~3102.

The breakpoints above are the ones you generally gear towards (not including haste procs like the one from insignia). Just keep in mind not to reach the breakpoint and then gear for another stat, haste is still best past these numbers.

Just some more info, you don't really try and reach these hastepoints, but rather these are just when our dots get the 3rd tick with standard buffs (basically nature's grace has fallen off).
If you are reapplying dots outside of nature's grace without dark intent, the breakpoint that matters is ~2778.
If you are reapplying dots outside of nature's grace with dark intent, the breakpoint that matters is ~2324.

Once/IF you have insignia of the corrupted mind, 2 haste breakpoints are important to keep in mind (not necessarily gear for but rather just be aware of the fact) for the 7th extra tick.

5459 with NG/no DI
4927 with NG and DI.

You can reach the 5459 bp with the LFR trinket if you have 2886 haste, 2555 haste with normal insignia, and 2181 with heroic insignia. The only case that this matters for really is if you're in transitioning gear from heroic FL gear to heroic DS and are using LFR insignia, you might find it worth it to gem a few reckless gems if you're close to 2886 haste.

With DI, you're basically set to reach that 7th extra tick with only 2354 haste with the lfr trinket.

Balanced · 01/11/12, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dyminator

Most interested in the breakpoints previous to the 3102 breakpoint

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pouche · 01/12/12, 1:01 AM

Originally Posted by Abrabbor

Pyroblast should never be hard casted.

Idiot question i guess...
Why wouldn't you (hard) cast Pyro, when you have a 'pull countdown', as your first cast?

Aountrio · 01/12/12, 1:07 AM

Hi good people of EJ.
The question is this. would selfless healer be worth anything with T13 4set?

you cannot ignore the huge damage we can get with popping WOG & than all of our CD together.

/discuss?

tlon · 01/12/12, 1:12 AM

Player Felice @ Draenor
Armory; Felice @ Draenor - Game - World of Warcraft
Spec: Talents & Glyphs - Game - World of Warcraft
WoL for Deathwing: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

We cleared DW last week when Felice was unavailable, filled using an alt. Felice is doing 31K dps, which is 6K lower than the rogue that filled her spot last week and about 15K less than the DPS leaders.

Need to find at least 5K more from her. Can you please look an offer recommendations on playstyle? Glyphs/Spec/Talent comments welcome too, but mostly interested in play inefficiency.

Tools/recommendations on being a better player always welcome.

Dyminator · 01/12/12, 1:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lymited

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the breakpoints are as follows:

Just some more info, you don't really try and reach these hastepoints, but rather these are just when our dots get the 3rd tick with standard buffs (basically nature's grace has fallen off).
If you are reapplying dots outside of nature's grace without dark intent, the breakpoint that matters is ~2778.
If you are reapplying dots outside of nature's grace with dark intent, the breakpoint that matters is ~2324.

Once/IF you have insignia of the corrupted mind, 2 haste breakpoints are important to keep in mind (not necessarily gear for but rather just be aware of the fact) for the 7th extra tick.

With DI, you're basically set to reach that 7th extra tick with only 2354 haste with the lfr trinket.

Right now i'm at 2830 Haste rating and i usually run with DI, sometimes i don't.
Currently using the normal version om insignia of the corrupted mind, which puts me at 5734 haste rating with proc active.
with DI giving ~rougly 384 haste rating i reaching 6118 haste rating.
>>> Armory <<<

Originally Posted by Balanced

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Oggs · 01/12/12, 2:16 AM

Well, your Corruption, Bane of Doom and ISF uptimes are really low, thats what i can tell you by giving your log a fast look.

ertan · 01/12/12, 2:50 AM

well I dont know

I though maybe my rotation was wrong

I changed my rotation as scorch- livingbomb- ( flameorb)- fireball untill the problast procs then all dots on the target I pressed combustion

ı did regularly 19-20 k

ım looking to have more dps than that

thanks and regards

Jaffi · 01/12/12, 5:42 AM

Normal Vishanka is simming around 200 dps better than heroic arbalest for me since the changes made to the bow. Is that really possible? Seems much to me.

tpat · 01/12/12, 9:01 AM

Hello all,
I have been playing arcane for a long time and decided to go fire after 4.3 .I usually have 24-26k dps but sometimes it drops to almost 20k. Can you plz check my gear and tell me about my reforging? I dont know if my haste is enough and I should reforge to crit.
Thank you in advance.
Armory link : Delmonicon @ Aerie Peak - Game - World of Warcraft

ertan · 01/12/12, 9:36 AM

hello Tpat

ım using for regorging www.askmrrobot.com thats quite good site that check your gear and avdvise you whet ennchants you should do or which gems you should get

also you can change your stats

Blueobelisk · 01/12/12, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by pouche

Idiot question i guess...
Why wouldn't you (hard) cast Pyro, when you have a 'pull countdown', as your first cast?

You could spend the time getting your flame orb and mirror image GCD out of the way as well as using your volcanic potion just as the countdown ends. However, I'm not sure if this actually yields better DPS.

Tehillim · 01/12/12, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by rayzorium

But that's not true. Diseases tick based on what your stats were when you applied the disease. This means that most people are applying close to the weakest diseases possible and extending them for at least the first minute of most fights, and probably much longer, since it is seemingly reasonable to extend diseases until you're forced to outbreak again.

Wrong XD

Originally Posted by Hinenuitepo

If I'm understanding your post correctly you seem to be asking if you can roll buffed diseases a la 3.xx; this is not the case any longer. Back then, you wanted to wait until your attack power was very high (due to procs etc) and then apply diseases and then refresh them to keep high-damage diseases going throughout the fight. This has long since been changed and diseases simply tick based on current attack power

Right =)

FearMeMortals · 01/13/12, 12:32 AM

I've recently swapped over to arms from fury and I'm having trouble getting much use out of the new 2pc bonus, mostly because I rarely get to heroic strike outside of a) the odd rage spike which only needs 1 heroic strike not a whole bunch of them b) after deadly calm c) pooling a bit of rage before a cs.

I'm used to being able to use the 2pc bonus on CD and getting a large dps bump out of it, but for arms it just feels kinda useless.

Came to this thread to see what other arms warriors have to say on the topic.