Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1925

FearMeMortals · 01/14/12, 1:44 AM

Are you planning to expand the spreadsheet to include Arms at some stage Landsoul? This is definitely not me nagging you, you've already contributed an amazing resource for free. The fact that the spreadsheet is called 'warrior DPS' but there are only 'Fury' tabs in the spreadsheet itself made me think that 'Arms' might still be on the cards.

bi0bi0 · 01/14/12, 5:45 AM

The current model also seems to be bugged somewhere else (atleast for Sub) got some realy curious Ep Values

like Haste Rating 31.17, Yellow Hit 22.63, .., Agility 4.06, Crit Rating 1.66

Sibylle · 01/14/12, 6:22 AM

Thank you Hamsda, much appreciated.

Zoyt · 01/14/12, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by bi0bi0

The current model also seems to be bugged somewhere else (atleast for Sub) got some realy curious Ep Values

like Haste Rating 31.17, Yellow Hit 22.63, .., Agility 4.06, Crit Rating 1.66

I have noticed this also has something to do with The Dreamer with my gearset when i change it to Vengeance for example my EP values return to normal

Grimmarg · 01/14/12, 8:32 AM

Originally Posted by Freshborn

In my opinion it makes no sense to "cleave" with Multishot on two targets.

Focus on one and perhaps keep a serpent sting acitve on the second target.

I don't understand this mentality. For me it's a clear dps increase to Multi-Shot on 2 targets, compared to regular rotation+SS on second.

Basically explosive trap, multi-shot, and 2xExplosive Shot on your main target when you proc LnL.

Grimmarg · 01/14/12, 8:36 AM

Originally Posted by Seraph_Six

Is there an estimate as to what the value of haste is after the ~30% threshold? Mr. Robot doesn't quite like to devalue haste after that (it leaves it at the original weight of 2.08).
I'm around 35.6% haste raid-buffed using [Insignia of the Corrupted Mind] with [Bottled Wishes]. I'm wondering if I should just reforge some of that haste to mastery or just throw [Darkmoon Card: Volcano] back into the mix over [Bottled Wishes].

Suggestions?

Bottled Wishes is a horrible trinket, unless it gets you to a specific haste plateau. If you're already at the 26xx (whatever it is) haste rating plateau, then you're better off using a trinket that gives you int, and a haste proc (if it takes you to a plateau) or another secondary stat. If you can get your hands on [Cunning of the Cruel] (even the LFR version), it would be best.

kardar · 01/14/12, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by Grimmarg

I don't understand this mentality. For me it's a clear dps increase to Multi-Shot on 2 targets, compared to regular rotation+SS on second.

Basically explosive trap, multi-shot, and 2xExplosive Shot on your main target when you proc LnL.

yea thats what i thought too when trying it out, didn't know for sure if it was a clear dps increase or not though. managed to grab a good rank while trying it out so thought it might be worthwhile to throw the question here with all the experienced and better hunters than me =)

Whackacrow · 01/14/12, 2:57 PM

Hello,

I've been trying to improve my Fire Mage's DPS recently, as I'm hitting around 22k on most normal boss fights in 10 man raids. I'd ideally like to be hitting 27-28k DPS, which is going to be a problem considering my Mage's gear, but I'd like to ask you what you suggest I should do in order to improve in general.

My single-target rotation is usually as follows;

1) Cast Pyroblast
2) Cast Living Bomb
3) Cast Scorch
4) Cast Fireball until Pyroblast procs
5) Cast the proc'd Pyroblast
6) Cast Combustion <- Usually ticking for 6-8k per second
7) Cast Fireball until Pyroblast procs, re-applying LB once it's expired and casting Combustion when opportune

EDIT: I also apply Flame Orb whenever possible.

How is this rotation? How can I improve on this?

Secondly, I do not have an effective AOE rotation. Could someone suggest what to do in such a situation?

My mage's armoury link: Akilta @ Outland - Game - World of Warcraft

Note: I know I've not got the appropriate Therazane rep for the PvE shoulder enchants, so I'm using the PvP ones and I'm working on that. Secondly, I've not got the required Enchanting level to enchant my rings yet, but I'll put +40 intellect on both of them.

Note 2: For some reason my +20 stats isn't showing, so please imagine it is when casting your feedback.

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

parano · 01/14/12, 3:18 PM

is Rotting Skull better than normal Vessel of Acceleration?

Anngrat · 01/14/12, 5:18 PM

so back 2 my question ( mod found it kinda whining lol, imho dat was a damned legit question )

So, here is my question - is any there ANY way to force crits, cause there is a situation which makes me REALLY MAD -

Ultra 25 hm = pre-pot, Heroism, trinket procs, 10 stacks etc etc - and im receiving something like 6-7 hits, 1 crit, 6-7 hits, 1 crit etc etc etc = no ignit, no shitloads of pyro, no imba combust = IM MAD. Bloodlust just finished and i didnt got an ignite above 17-18k.....

It happents in something like 30-40% of the pulls, and after it I want just quit playing this game

I guess the word *mad* made it looks like whining ololo, but dat was a question

so - what you kinda if u have bl prepot trinket up, but simply unlucky at hits? Just pray and keep spamming fb?

Nightriderr · 01/14/12, 11:18 PM

Quick question- I know its mainly PvE but what is the best Spec for PvP? (Hunters of course)

TuccepLaceMem · 01/15/12, 12:34 PM

I found the answer in google, remove the topic pls.

Juandisimo · 01/15/12, 12:35 PM

Based on the current numbers for dual wielding Gurthalak's, would it be advisable to replace Cudgel of the Warmaster in my OH, with an LFR/normal Gurthalak?

Klubba · 01/15/12, 7:05 PM

aaand what about the specimen slicer? I've luckily got both, heroic specimen slicer of Yorsahj and norm gurth, but the standard credo around here has always been that, even with the nerf, the procc of the normal version gurth is superior to the heroic weapons and their stats.. including the higher weapon dmg, which surprised me. Simcraft gives me around 1,3k DPS more with the heroic axe compared to the norm sword. now we are talking about the heroic mace, which is in my eyes weaker than the axe and it beats norm gurth.. erm.. can someone fix this up for me?^^

Hoipolloi · 01/16/12, 12:58 PM

Whackacrow,

To clarify your rotation it's better to see it as a priority list which is always as follow:

1) Flame Orb
2) Living Bomb
3) Pyroblast from proc
4) Fireball

Use combustion with reasonable ignites (this depends on your toon and gear) and scorch while moving.

AOE is situational. The best aoe is spreading combustion so if you need to do aoe damage fast try to plan for this. After that it will depend on number of targets. In general what I do is if there are more than 5 targets I Flame blast then flamestrike spam. This will eat mana so you must also take that into consideration. If there are 4 or less targets I keep living bomb up on each and keep a regular rotation spreading all ignites with impact procs. My gear has me at about 32K single target dps and by spreading ignites I will do around 40K dps; spreading combustion can bring this number up to 70K for the duration and Blast wave/flamestrike on multiple targets is about 50K. (yoshr adds for example)

With your gear you should be doing closer to 30k dps so you're biggest problem is likely just not enough casting. To increase your dps ask yourself if there was any possible way you could've gotten more casts off in an encounter. Since we can cast while moving, this means that if you're not on GCD or casting at any time during the fight; there is room for improvement. We can have 100% active times; moving is no excuse for us to not be dpsing.

Hope this helps.