Resilience offers no benefit in PvE, but blocks itemization points that are used for more beneficial stats on PvE-Gear. So unless the itemlevel of the PvP-Gear is significantly higher (and thus provides a lot more agility, which makes up for the lost stats), PvE-Gear is usually the better choice. If you're in doubt which armor piece provides more dps, you can ask femaledwarf.

Check out the Simple Questions/Simple Answers thread.
I also have a guide to Arms Warrior dps on my blog, if you care to check that out.

I will PM the creator of this forum to change the glyph section then.

What do you think about this spec: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This would be a good spec, as long as you still never have to use lifetap. The reason why we had two full points in mana feed is to reduce the use of lifetap. With more Intellect, mana becomes less of a hassle, and maybe in the heroic gear chaos bolt and soul fire might grant enough mana regeneration to put more points in the Affliction tree.

Following my #82 post.

First of all, I'm not a druid hater, I've rolled druid since forever but you have to acknowledge certain things, like we are hands down the best OTs. Obviously I understand the hate since I'm posting on a Druid forum… I have a pally, DK and druid to which I've taken through normal DS and my druid and DK through some H DS fights… so I'm not talking out of my ass.

Let's start…

Passive overall mitigation:

- Bears have 18% (overall dmg reduction) plus 6% (spell damage reduction), all from talents.

- Pallies have 10% (overall dmg reduction from talents).

- DKs have 14% overall dmg reduction. 8% from Blood presence, 6% from barrier. Plus Rune on weapon for parry, stamina/armor or spell reduction dmg.

- Warriors get 10% from defensive stance.

From passive, Bears look like the clear winners. But I think controlling spikes of damage (both from physical and spell) is more important for survivability than passive mitigation IN MOST FIGHTS. CDs are similar between tanks with a few differences that make all the difference.

For controlling spikes of damage vs physical damage Pallies are best with their CTC and warriors block, shield wall, shield block?? (I'm not a big fan of warriors nor have tanked with one end game, ever).
DKs control when to use their bloodshields and bloodshield stacks.
Druids have the highest avoidance (on chance) and SD (on chance) procs more often than Bloodshield, and could have the most health of all tanks if gemmed/chanted accordingly.

For controlling spikes of spell damage Dks are the best with AMS (75% reduction), boneshield (longest lasting 20% CD in most cases), IBF (50% reduction) plus all the self healing CDs… lichborne, ghoul sac, rune tap, Death strike, VB (1min CD).
Pallies have their glyphed DP for 40% reduction, GOTFK 50%, AD 20%.
Druids with their biggest passive plus Barkskin 20%, SI 50%.
Warriors shield block 20% spell reduction, …. fill in.

Now talking more about each boss and I'll leave out warriors since I don't know much about them:

- Morchok is 90% physical, 10% spell dmg if you take a crystal. The best tank vs physical are Pallies with their CTC and with enough CDs (more than a druid) to weather the stomps and their 50% dmg taken increase afterwards. Between druids and DKs is extremely close, but DKs have all their self-healing plus can time their DS and it stacks, it doesn't only refresh. On the other hand SD procs a lot more often and Druids have the highest Avoidance.
The druid 4set is far better for this fight followed by the DK 4set.

- Yor'sahj - Refer to my reply to Szynszyla.

- Zon'ozz - Pally/DK>Druid/Warrior

- Hagara - It's just about dealing with FA and I think all tanks can easily. Minor differences here. As far as raid utility having the Druid 4set for Lightning phase and the roar for ice helps a ton!

- Ultaxion - About 60% physical, 40% shadow.
Dks can AMS every HoT and can use the IBF, Boneshield and everything else for inbetween tanking which makes them take very little dmg.
Pallies can use glyphedDP every HoT and same as above.
Druid have to use the SI on every other HoT and their barkskin on every HoT.
On Heroic they can all use their biggest CD for every HoT…

- Blackhorn - Pally>DK>Druid

- Spine - Pally>Druid>DK

- Madness - Refer to my reply to Szynszyla.

I think you are partially wrong, SD's Still is on a chance proc and not a given, plus it refreshes but doesn't stack. Dodge is pretty sick tho

It's all situational, depending who plays the class, the comp, the difference between tanks is very small.

Fo sho.

- Yors'sahj DKs will always be better but followed by Pallies, not Druids "depending on the comp." The healing from unglyphed FR and LoTP can come from a feral cat too.
- Madness DKs>Pallies>druids>Warriors, that's the best you'll get from me. Read the CD list up there and Can't tell me druids are better for either phase.

Phase 1: Impale- Pallies GOTFK, AD. DKs DS stacking, Boneshield, IBF, self healing CDs (read above).
Burning Blood - Pallies glyphedDP. DKs AMS.

Phase 2: Tetanus (all shadow damage) - Pallies glyphedDP, DKs AMS. Plus all their other CDs. (read above).

Still a bunch of crap and nonsense right?

^^^^^

At the end of the day it's what makes up the best comp and has the highest survivability… provided the player playing the tank doesn't stink. I am not stating that there are huge differences on tank survivability on EVERY FIGHT. In most of them the differences are tiny.

Please tell me how much haste you would be advised for 398-401gear.



---sry for my bad eng.

How is this post relevant in a Fury BIS thread?

thank you for this great explanation! I`m going to change my mh weapon more often

Are they looking to buff ele shamans at all? I have done some research with other elemental shamans on my server, and they seem to have the same issue I'm having. On 10man madness I can get between 35-40k dps and still being way lower than the other dpsers in the raid. I've got the rotation and gear lvl of 386. I give it everything I got and can't seem to put out anymore dps. I've kinda been debating on what to do on my situation. If you have any suggestions please let me know. Thanks!

well shadowcraft tells u all, go there and use auto reforge and auto gem, but for what i can tell u, ur orange gem (in ur pants) should be 20 agi+20 haste and not + 20 mastery, in terms of reforge i cant tell u exactly but i guess that if u go to expertise cap is a dps improvement.