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Old 03/19/09, 5:45 PM   #2896
emidget
 
Gnome Mage
 
Malygos
I personally have found the "checklist" to be a viable way to avoid nightmares in certain situations. But it is totally reliant that everyone is honest , I have had people(usually pugged raid members ) say they know the fights and yet they don't show any signs of having done them before ,I'll use the Heigan the unclean fight as an example I always use the 4 quarter strat, and there is always someone that runs all the way to the other side and then wonders why they're eating floor.I have also seen that after explaining the strats to the new people that it can take 2 to 3 repetitions to get my point across.Perhaps its my way of explaining but I try to keep it as simple as possible , nobody wants to hear someone talking for 20 minutes before each boss encounter. So I attempt to cram as much information on the encounter as I can into a 5 minute explanation and I have had mixed results ( witch I feel is due to people losing interest in the strategy and wanting to run in blindly and just sword and board the boss to death with no clue what to be on the lookout for( we all know this never goes well for most encounters )
I currently raid on the malygos server and perhaps its the quality of raiders I am finding or I need to revamp my approach to preparing the raid for each encounter.So in short I guess you cant teach old raiders new tricks , and when dealing with new raiders be patient and pray they have a decent attention span .

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Old 03/19/09, 5:45 PM   #2897
twistedmoon
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Orc Death Knight
 
Karazhan (EU)
EXcuse me guys,but can someone please try these 2 specs?

13-58 deep unholy

and

53-18 deep frost

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Old 03/19/09, 6:05 PM   #2898
NCH
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
Dun Modr (EU)
I am full pve but when i played arenas with mi DK, i was in a 2v2 team with a holy pala and it was so easy except vs pala holy and pala retry, or pala retry and priest.

This is cause a paladin can make a fear to our pets inmediatly or just kill it in 4 seconds so we dont have stun, also if they are 2 palas they have 2 divine shields and if they are pala retry-priest disci, the pala just go to kill mi mate, they stun me, fear me.... and then the priest dispells his divine shield and mi mate dies.

Any idea how to win that in 2v2? mi mate try to take me out of fears and stuns but we only win few times when i go to the priest and mi mate use fredom on me, pet stun-silence, and priest must die.

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Old 03/19/09, 6:08 PM   #2899
Malathar
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Undead Warlock
 
Blackhand
The instructions on how to use simcraft aren't rocket science. Anyone who can't run the tests for themselves simply have not tried.

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Old 03/19/09, 6:28 PM   #2900
Sanfrancisco
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
Thunderlord
In terms of which presence to use, I almost always go with Unholy - unless being faced with classes with very high survivability. The 15% speed boost is essential for catching up to a kiting class, and the -1sec to my GCD ensures that I have far greater burst damage than nearly every other class with the number of instant strikes we have, at least in the terms of several seconds.
Classes with higher survivability tend to eat my damage and I find myself waiting several seconds for my runes to be back up.

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Old 03/19/09, 7:50 PM   #2901
Burcee
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Gnome Mage
 
Nathrezim
This maybe a stupid question I do not PVP that much. I am wondering If like sports, If I PVP more will I get better or no. It seem like I just panic when I'm getting attacked, maybe I'm not using the right spell combo's Thanks for your help guys.

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Old 03/19/09, 7:52 PM   #2902
diospadre
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Undead Warrior
 
Mal'Ganis
No, your arena rating is determined at birth and you will never get better or worse.

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Old 03/19/09, 8:31 PM   #2903
jminhas
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Tauren Druid
 
Mannoroth
Can someone give me the best strat they have in order to
obtain the killing Herald Volazj achievement in Heroic Ahn'Kahet: The Old Kingdom?

My friend said it was only possible for him after he took a group till the end,
kicked them all, got 4 geared dps guildies, and Bloodlusted and burned him down
before the bastard got a Insanity spell out. Since I don't want to do that, any other suggestions?




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Old 03/19/09, 8:33 PM   #2904
Burcee
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Gnome Mage
 
Nathrezim
I'm talking about battlegrounds.. I don't do any Arena

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Old 03/19/09, 11:28 PM   #2905
cromwel
 
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Human Mage
 
Khaz'goroth
Best spec

Ive don alot of reading here and i was hoping that you guys could just confirm what i seem to be seeing

Frost still= survival but is still the lowest single target dps spec

frost fire has slipped to the next lowest single target dps spec?

fire spec now the NO2 spec

Arcane the NO1 dps spec by a fair way BUT with potential mana issues on long fights and reduction of dps if evo is needed

i must admit i have good gear but latency of 400 and as frost fire build im about 4 k on patchwork.. which feels low to me ive watch another arc mage with less gear pull 5 K... i think my LB cast is off so maybe i can squeeze a bit more but it seems to me that i need a respec.

If anyone can confirm the abouve that would make my decision alot easier thx

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Old 03/19/09, 11:49 PM   #2906
FatTony
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Gnome Mage
 
Uther
So what do you guys want to talk about now since raiding as frost is a dead topic for the foreseeable future?

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Old 03/20/09, 2:14 AM   #2907
PEarlygates
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Draenei Shaman
 
Frostwhisper (EU)
A questions for duel wielding DPS.

Rune of the Fallen Crusader - Whats the CD on it to proc again ?

Duel wielding 2 weapons with Rune of the Fallen Crusader, is it worth it ? or is it just pointless.

If I have Rune of the Fallen Crusader on one hand and Enchant Weapon - Crusader can both proc at same time ? Do they effect eachothers CD in some way ?

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Old 03/20/09, 3:18 AM   #2908
Kaneda979
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mannoroth
Hello all. I'm new to this forum and so far loving it, I've learned allot from this tread alone it's helped to make my pally freakin' sweet. I have a level 70 Ret/Holy Pally and I'm getting to the point of worrying about what to get for my end game PvP gear. This is my first pally, and so far I'm having a blast with him, even made him my main over my level 75 DK. But I still have allot to learn.

I'm thinking of getting PvE gear also, but not as worried about it as much I am PvP stuff or should I? Problem is I'm not exactly sure what to go with. Can any of you please give me an idea of what I should be looking for?

I've searched the web for anything on this and most everything I've found is out of date about old patches' gear, not even updated to WotLK, or just listings of some gear sets and their stats, which I still can't tell much about.

I wanna know whats best for a DPS pally at the moment with the current patch, be it an armor set or a mix of different stuff. Weapon, boots, and all, and if somehow I can squeeze in any amount of healing bonus without taking away from any of my possible DPS, that would be great too. I would of researched this and asked around more sooner, but I've just been focusing on leveling and doing some Battleground runs here and there.

Oh that reminds me, is any of the gear earned threw honor points from Battlegrounds or Arena currently worth it? I don't see many players on my server using or wearing that stuff, so I'm not sure if it's because of the time you have to put into getting that stuff or it's just not worth it.

And one last thing. These new Ret T8 pally sets coming soon, are they going to be worth my time or is the current stuff just as good or better?

Well, that's it I think. Hope I'm not asking about too much stuff at once. >_< Please answer for me as much as you can and I'll be looking forward to your reply's. Appreciate the help.

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Old 03/20/09, 4:45 AM   #2909
Kahcheeta
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Tauren Druid
 
<FFS>
Boulderfist (EU)
@Jminhas
Ever tried reading through the threads in the Druid's section before posting?

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Old 03/20/09, 5:28 AM   #2910
brokentuzk
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Tauren Druid
 
Mug'thol
Originally Posted by RareBeast View Post
Thanks Abraxxes. I'll add this to the original post once we get closer to patch day. Who knows what they might change in the meantime....

I would imagine that the bonuses would multiply (which appears to be what your figures above include anyway).


Just a few corrections to your figures (pretty sure they are correct).

Strength
Cat - 2.37864 AP (2.616504 AP)
Bear - 2.1624 AP (2.37864 AP)
Bear with PotP - 2.292144 (2.5213584 AP)

Agility
1.18932 AP (Cat Only) (1.308252 AP)
.0129744% crit (.01427184% crit)
.025948% dodge (.0285428% dodge)
2.1624 armor (2.37864 armor)

77.05 agility - 1% crit (70.07)
38.54 agility - 1% dodge (35.03)

Stamina
1 Stamina - 10.812 Health (11.8932 Health)
1 Stamina - 16.218 Health (bear only) (17.8398 Health)

Intellect
1 Intellect - 19.4616 Mana (21.40776 Mana)
1 Intellect - .007785% spell crit (.0085635%)

128.45 Intellect - 1% Spell Crit (116.78)
All this math is making my head want to explode! I dont exactly understand how to calculate diminishing returns so I am confused how to compare the 84 doge in [Valor Medal of the First War] to the 850 armor in [Defender's Code]

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