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Old 03/11/12, 9:20 PM   #29221
 Rodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by Varete View Post
Hiya, I was hoping to get some input for my reforging options. My choice comes down crit vs mastery - granted, the answer would be the latter in most situations but my guild cannot always run with a 5% crit buff and occasionally, we're missing BoK/Mark aswell.
What my numbers come down to are: 1600 crit, 2383 mast vs 1751 crit, 2197 mast
I know mastery is considered superior but I find myself covetously eyeing the extra crit. Opinions? Here's my character sheet if it'll help any.
Nyctalopia @ Steamwheedle Cartel - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

As a side note, is 27k on Ultrax any good? I know RNG factors heavily but just as a benchmark...
I know there are a lot of other factors, but generally speaking, no, it's not.

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Old 03/11/12, 9:26 PM   #29222
 Rodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by Butosai View Post
The proc is out of control for arms warriors(and for some reason blizzard thinks this is okay, when we were nerfed for the exact reason). The procs are roughly equal for ret and unholy, though the tentacles damage scales from unholy dks mastery, making it lowest for ret.
Because Ret Paladins aren't supposed to out-DPS the golden goose, per blizzard logic. That's the only real reason any of us have been able to come up with in this regard; I know it's not very satisfactory, nor is it even likely, we're just left scratching our heads at what sometimes seem like arbitrary changes.

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Old 03/12/12, 5:32 AM   #29223
birdie1982
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I'm just going to not ask anything. After reading through the rules of this forum and the warnings that have been issued I realised this is not something I want to be a part of.

If I could delete my post I would.

Last edited by birdie1982 : 03/12/12 at 10:11 AM.

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Old 03/12/12, 5:56 AM   #29224
Austin23
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Worgen Warlock
 
Khaz Modan
I would like some feedback from any Desto that is currently raiding without the 5% haste buff. I am wondering if it is worth getting to the same haste threshold as a Warlock that raids with this buff. Will the 2 extra Immolate ticks make up for the large amount of Crit/Mastery lost from gearing this way?

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Old 03/12/12, 4:12 PM   #29225
Spacedonkey
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Madoran
Thnx for update.

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Old 03/12/12, 4:54 PM   #29226
Gakpad
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If you can reach the equivalent of the nongoblin 2589 threshold, it would be worth it so long as it isn't at the expense of hit (unless you'd be giving up a very small amount of hit as a last resort).

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Old 03/13/12, 4:30 AM   #29227
Yverson
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Hi there,

as a TG Fury (plz continue reading, the Post is about Arms), with Landsouls Spreadsheet i got a 0,60% DPS increase by swiching from Orc to Troll (added timestamps correctly) GS = 403.
Now i know that Fury benefits more from Haste than Arms, but the 0,60% still made me think...
Regarding, that while using Gurthalak the Expertise benefit as Orc has no value and there are no Beast-Bosses in DS its only:

15 Sec 1170 AP 2 min CD VS 10 Sec 20% Haste 3 Min CD

Sadly the Spreadsheet from Landsoul doesn't support Arms yet :/
Anyone else ever thought about the Troll Racial?

Greetings
Yverson

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Old 03/13/12, 6:17 AM   #29228
iinverse
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Азурегос (EU)
Correct ilvl for hands in BiS setion, please.

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Old 03/13/12, 12:32 PM   #29229
Chróno
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Rexxar
Hey guys, new to the forums here and just wanted to ask about the 2pT12 and 2pT13. I only have the 378 version of T12 of pants and head and wanted to know if it was worth it still if it isnt the 391 version. Im working on Heroic DS so the regen from the set would be nice but am i sacrificing too much with the lower stats on the (378) T12?

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Old 03/13/12, 5:24 PM   #29230
Deleroo
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Hellow I was woundering would it be considered a DPS loss to ignore Hot streak procs when there is still more less then 10 seconds but nore than 2 seconds left on the pyroblast DOT effect on the boss? I have done it both ways using hot streak procs when they happen and not using the procs when there is less than 10 seconds but more than 2 seconds left on bosses. Over all I have seen about a 3k to 4k difference in DPS with not using the hot streak procs right away but only to maintian the DOT. Can any one else confirm this for me or is this just how the gearing I have done on my mage just supports this.

Here is a link to my mage and I know some of my pieces are not correct, they were a major upgrade over what I had at the time.
Windmagi @ Ysondre - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

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Old 03/13/12, 7:37 PM   #29231
kurrup
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Agamaggan
i am a new warlock i just want to know what is the best leveling spec?

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Old 03/13/12, 8:44 PM   #29232
Metallic01
 
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Crushridge (EU)
Hello! I wanted to know if having the raid buff and dark intellect of the lock could only have 1573 of haste to get the same tick of the 2005 Haste

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Old 03/13/12, 10:29 PM   #29233
morgean
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I noticed that the guide is a bit outdated about hit cap isn't the new hit cap 8%?

I was also wondering if reforging to haste instead of crit would be better a lot of hunters in my guild been saying they noticed a huge dps gain when taking crit and turning it into haste or is this some how wrong?

Not sure if its me or not but I seem to find the best rotation is:

SS= Serpent Shot CS= Chimera Shot StS= Steady Shot RF= Rapid Fire AS= Aim Shot ArS= Arcane Shot

SS > CS > StS > StS > RF > AS > ArS > StS > StS > CS

Basically repeating this over and over using Arcane shot and Aim rotation until Chimera is up and then hitting Chimera. Just seems like a lot less complicated and doesn't go through as much focus I have a ilvl of 380 so maybe its just cause I'm lower geared then the top tier? I just find doing Aim shot a lot kills my focus I can't do the recommended 3 times. Or am I missing something?

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Old 03/14/12, 1:06 AM   #29234
morgean
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something interesting guildies and I use to do take a 85 whatever you are get 5 man groups take off all your gear even weapons start at VC get gear, run Stocks get gear, run SM, etc basically running all the old instances upgrading your gear each time (so repair doesn't matter) finally you get to the raids and start clearing the raids with the correct gear for that lvl raid its better if you get one of each gear class cloth, leather, mail, plate of course there is going to be some overlapping some where.

Its really fun to go through all the old instances and if you do it with guild you can get all the old achievements you may or may not have yet including the raids, the best part is no repair bill cause its not your high end gear and you can sell whatever you don't want to keep great for those that like to collect old tier for transmog or to just have. I earned a lot of gold by just killing everything as if you were starting over at lvl 1 and you collect great beginner mats for enchanting, tailoring, leather working, etc.

We call it naked runs and try to do them once a month just for fun to get a good laugh and well earn gold, collector gear, pets, mounts, etc.

As a hunter you can even do this on your own and you don't have to worry about gold as I stated before cause you aren't using your own gear I use a bear pet or tank substitute but it doesn't really matter much until lvl 75 cause you just rip through things fast anyway.

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Old 03/14/12, 7:43 AM   #29235
Chainfire
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The Maelstrom (EU)
Yes, having DI as well as the raid buff means you only need to have 1573 haste rating yourself to reach the breakpoint.

Refer to Tangedyn's spreadsheet for more info.

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