Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1961

Murith · 06/25/12, 9:18 AM

Hey guys, my first post here and didn't want to make new thread for my question(s).
The thing is, is there a difference between warrior spec in 10m and 25m? I'm back after few months of break and planing to raid again (10m). At the moment i'm running with common (8/0/33) spec with
- 175 871 hp
- 1,37% hit
- 4 exp
- 13,19% dodge
- 18,54% parry
- 55,34% block (23,56 mastery)

Also if you could check my wow profile and give me any advice about my gear/enchants/gems, that would be really appreciated.

Mimic751 · 06/27/12, 3:20 PM

What started the war... Im really far behind on the Lore, but i am curious

Mimic751 · 06/27/12, 3:22 PM

Honey weiss and dos eques all the way

Mimic751 · 06/27/12, 3:30 PM

I just finished my Tank kit
Zealadin @ Malygos - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

My CTC
unbuffed 101.01
Buffed 102.9
My expertise
26
My Hit
8.27%
My health
unbuffed 193k
buffed 221k
.

On a typical normal mode DS boss, I am pushing around 19-22k dps. (normal mode is so damn easy)
If you want a more in depth look
chardev 9

I have also set up a 2/2 ret/prot kit for the extra 3-4k dps when we dont need the raid wall perk from the prot 4 piece.
That kit can be seen here:
chardev 9
As you can see I am still ctc capped, over capped actually when buffed I was able to accomplish this by only switching out shoulders and Legs.

My goal was to maximize DPS while not sacrificing survivability. As we have very competent healers, I feel we do not need me to have a few thousand extra health.

We are starting Heroics today and focusing on Morchock, yor'sahj (skittles), and Ultraxion

What are your opinions?

japp1egate · 06/28/12, 1:01 AM

This makes me sad, as I will likely never get those achieves since my guild fell apart at the launch of SW:TOR.

phantom57 · 06/30/12, 5:25 PM

Full bis gear. Thinking about neck - 397 from vendor (hit+haste) or 397 from ragnaros (mastery+haste). both show similar results on simcraft. any1 has ideas?

japp1egate · 07/01/12, 3:28 AM

Originally Posted by Caribald

The only mob that does any real damage is the Sunblade Slayer due to its percentage based DoT. For the packs that have that mob you'll want to either burn it down right away or use Freezing Trap while you kill the rest. If it casts the dot (I believe it's called Slaying Shot) on you, you need to Intervene - if on your pet, use Shell Shield or Cower. It should never be allowed to cast it more than once per pack and Intervene will be ready for each pull.

Thank you very much for the input, Caribald! I'll see what I can do with them this weekend.

notoriousthief · 07/02/12, 6:28 PM

I keep hearing that mastery is useless in PvE. Does it mean that fingers of frost does not benefit from mastery or something?

Gothmor · 07/03/12, 6:03 PM

are there some tests how strong haste will scale with our damage, could it be superior to mastery....?

kuhcius · 07/04/12, 1:34 AM

It seems to be great changes

kuhcius · 07/04/12, 1:41 AM

Good guide. Thanks for clearing that up..,

kuhcius · 07/04/12, 1:45 AM

will try and do some testing on that

Glurak · 07/04/12, 6:20 AM

whats you thinking will be stronger in MoP Fury or Arms ?

Lawlhunter · 07/05/12, 10:53 AM

Posting some findings from today. Build 15799. Really looking for other players feedback.
They were live tests so there is a chance of human error, RNG etc so it's not set in stone.
Feel free to comment or disagree.

The data was gathered as Survival on a boss dummy.
Buffs present were 10% haste and 10% AP.
Parses were done with the available PvP gear minus the Insignia of Conquest. (chance on hit to proc agi)
Equipped item level on character sheet was 451.
Data was gathered with Recount, Ingame macros and I was ment to upload to WoL but apparently i forgot to start logging -_-

Tier 4 Talents; Fervor - Readiness - Thrill of the Hunt
Readiness is the top DPS choice for this tier.
The focus gained from Fervor & Thrill of the Hunt just don't make up for the ability to reset your cooldowns.
The rotation / priority is fluid with the only time being focus starved when you use A Murder of Crows at the wrong time.
By wrong time I mean when you have 60 focus and Explosive shot & Black Arrow are coming off cooldown.
Thrill of the Hunt has some nice synergy with Lock & Load. If both buffs are up at the same time, it will consume Thrill of the Hunt first and because Lock & Load is active explosive shot isn't put on cooldown.
Was hoping for the same synergy with Master Marksmen but alas it consumes the instant Aimed shot first.

Tier 5 Talents; A Murder of Crows - Dire Beast - Lynx Rush
In terms of raw DPS A Murder of Crows comes out on top.
Dire Beast wasn't too far behind but in a min / maxing world Crows > Beast.
Like above the rotation / priority is fluid without the need for the extra focus from Dire Beast.
Lynx Rush was lagging behind by around 4,000 dps overall. Was great for burst damage, but the longer the fight the worse it will be.
Lynx Rush can also be parried while the pet is running around.

Tier 6 Talents; Glaive Toss - Powershot - Barrage
The level 90 Talents are useless single target. Using them gave no noticeable dps gains and my dps was actually higher without using them.
I might even go as far as to say they're useless all together, once you start adding more targets to get the extra damage from them you'll probably end up using Multi-Shot instead.

I expect that Crows & Readiness will be the way to go for all 3 specs for your average raid.
Lynx Rush is the only talent effected by spec and even then I don't think as BM it will close the gap.

I was planning to do some more parses as Beast Mastery and Marksman but;

Beast Mastery - Frenzy is annoying is hell in its current form. In one attempt the pet went an entire minute without gaining a single stack of Frenzy and then at other times it would get all 5 stacks very quickly.
As for Focus Fire use I was attempting to mimic live by using 2 stacks (16%), sometimes the pet wouldn't even make 2 stacks, it would get 1 then the buff would drop.

Marksmanship - Careful Aim skews the data, I was doing some tests on the dummies at Argent Tournament so Careful Aim wouldn't be in effect but obviously it skews your data since the dummy is only level 80.

Stampede
The damage for pets ranged from 140-270k
Ferocity pets will cast Rabid when summoned, it lasts for 20 seconds so it has 100% up time while they are active.
For pets to use their buffs or debuffs they must be set to auto cast on your pet bar or spellbook.
The average Stampede at level 90 should do around 1 mil damage in its current form.

So which spec is doing the most damage currently ?

According to my data from today Survival is in front with Marks coming in 2nd and Beast Mastery coming in 3rd.

This was a little surprising because a couple of weeks ago Beast Mastery was looking very close to Survival.

Really looking for other hunters feedback, especially those with more data on Beast Mastery and Marksman.
Do you agree or disagree with whats been said ?
If you disagree why ? What does your data suggest ?

Lilìtu · 07/06/12, 12:30 PM

They have the same amount of agility and haste. The difference is 176 hit vs. 176 mastery. Hit rating is better than mastery until you are under the cap of 1127 (3 precision).

Unless you are (almost) farming Raggy HC, keep the VP neck and reforge exceeding hit.

Similar is the VP back vs. Lord Ryho HC one's: in this case, the second is better, no crit and 2 socket