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Old 08/29/12, 8:37 AM   #29491
zkind45
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So now that 5.0.4 is out and is going to mimick newer abilities and talent trees im MoP, what kind of changes are coming to DK'S? frost in general

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Old 08/29/12, 9:24 AM   #29492
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Originally Posted by zkind45 View Post
So now that 5.0.4 is out and is going to mimick newer abilities and talent trees im MoP, what kind of changes are coming to DK'S? frost in general
Titus Pullo has a great frost thread which includes all changes, new abilities, and a talent rundown. http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t130583-...ld_hand_death/

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Old 08/29/12, 11:32 AM   #29493
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What glyphs turn out to be the best? I understand situations change, and each encounter may need some changes. To me it doesn't seem that any of the Major Glyphs are really there for frost, aside from Pillar of Frost, but this seems to be steering towards PVP concerns. What are other people choosing?

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Old 08/29/12, 11:37 AM   #29494
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So what is it to roll with now 2hand or DW frost?

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Old 08/29/12, 3:04 PM   #29495
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nevermind, ignore this

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Old 08/29/12, 5:31 PM   #29496
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Old 08/29/12, 5:33 PM   #29497
sanders
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How bad, gold loot wise, we're the old raid bosses needed with this new patch? My Internet has been out and I've yet to be able to get on to look and see... And another thing, so im guessing assuming by what Arcane36 stated about ontxia, that marks is still the best spec to solo old raids correct?

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Old 08/29/12, 6:53 PM   #29498
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Hyjal
I've gone through the FAQ and the 3 new threads for 5.0.4/MoP and haven't found a comparison of the new Undead racial for current 85 version Touch of The Grave and the level 90 version Touch of the Grave compared to existing racials.

I was curious how it stacks up to the Orc and Troll racials factoring in the Orc nerf.

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Old 08/29/12, 7:48 PM   #29499
Rickess
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21150 haste to get to 1 sec gcd? Is that possible with Mastery needed too? Or is my math wrong? Haste looks good for lots of our spells, and I know it is more important than it was, but we get no regen or anything from it. Does that not lower it below Mastery?

Not played on PTR so I am lost on this.

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Old 08/30/12, 2:12 AM   #29500
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I haven't been using fire spec actively for a while but in general this guide seems correct. Some of the info will certainly change now that the 5.0.4 patch is out; some spells were removed some added and the talent system overhauled. In general though i would think this is ok to follow.

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Old 08/30/12, 8:17 AM   #29501
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oops.

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You're still up for First Degree Slaughter of English Spelling, so sit the fuck down, defendant.

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Old 08/30/12, 11:48 AM   #29502
Whitefyst
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Originally Posted by Naughton View Post
I've gone through the FAQ and the 3 new threads for 5.0.4/MoP and haven't found a comparison of the new Undead racial for current 85 version Touch of The Grave and the level 90 version Touch of the Grave compared to existing racials.

I was curious how it stacks up to the Orc and Troll racials factoring in the Orc nerf.
I realize that there is a lot of new information to digest, but the information is in the threads.

The Mists of Pandaria: All Specs thread had the comparison done several times, although things have changed since then to modify the results a little, the general rankings should still be true. Plus, I do not know about the other spec posts, but I know that the MM Guide explicitly has a section on the racials.

You can also test out the affects of the racials yourself in tools like SimC and FD.

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Old 08/30/12, 2:25 PM   #29503
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what it was

Hi all shammies. I was really excited while launching game yesterday. But... What is this? Where are talents focused to do magic dos? I got decent buff in pvp, healing became more automated but what about my primary role? How to keep top1-2 in 10raids dos? CC is nice but I dunnohow 2keep my zerg function... Anyone got idea of 5.0 dosing or I
need to respect 2 tree.., errr, resto?

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Old 08/30/12, 5:03 PM   #29504
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Old 08/30/12, 8:55 PM   #29505
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With the 4p t13, wouldn't it be better to go for runic corruption instead as frost dw? The chance to get 710 mastery 4p proc is 15% higher with runic corruption. And also, as it looks now, do you think that dw frost will be the superior spec in mop progress?

Last edited by Oriondk : 08/30/12 at 9:15 PM. Reason: Added a question.

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