Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 1988

Tydas · 12/03/12, 12:13 PM

I also don't agree about the killshot thing.
As i read my logs, my avg hit on cobrashot is about 25k, and my avg hit with killshot is about 115k.
So even if i eat up 1sec GCD it worth it.

@Mericet, yes i also checked it out and it does end up the GCD if you don't finish the cast.

Durendil · 12/04/12, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by lysharp

25 heartbreaker down~ btw how to upload a picture here?

Upload it on imageshack then use the insert link or insert image button of the toolbar.

DarthMetatron · 12/04/12, 12:29 PM

Italiandk did you use the 2/2 upgrades for each trinket?

Nightfocus · 12/05/12, 1:46 PM

Hello , ive done some tests , ive allrdy a nice amount of haste , and 490 ilvl , normal starsha..

ive gotten this , if i keep mastery=crit

Wdps > Str > Haste = Mastery = Crit

Wondering , is that normal ? is it bugging ? ive allrdy like 22.70% haste thought ?

Burtreginald · 12/06/12, 3:35 AM

I was top till this morning, awkward.

In relation to killing Protectors, lol who kills protectors as a melee. - Him not killing energy charges means he is tunneling the boss(Higher dps) and AoE'ing adds down asap is key.

Either way thats irrelevant to the whole FoF or not debate, I just find personally it's easier to not use it, I know how/when to use it but.

And wait.. lol @ resetting overcharged, who does that.

fr0d0b0ls0n · 12/06/12, 4:36 AM

I just said is a bad boss example for any kind of rotation conclusion. My guild for example makes me kill 3 of the 5 Protectors, and reset with frequency Overcharged (the two things are linked of course, you kill Protectors for easy resetting). I also have to reset every Spark on phase 2. I can't top meters that way (I think I'm ranked around ~60 in Elegon), but the boss dies so I don't care.

Anyway this has nothing to do with FoF or not to FoF, I was just telling Halens that you can't take one log on Elegon as the holy grail of monk dps because of reasons.

Burtreginald · 12/06/12, 6:42 AM

xoxox burt

Halens · 12/06/12, 7:41 AM

Originally Posted by fr0d0b0ls0n

No, I'm not telling you that. But with personal experience you need multiple iterations, and test every possible rotation to conclude something, not only 1 rotation. That's why simulators are needed when they are perfected as you'll never have 1000 Elegon logs with the same gear for each possible rotation. Is like I eat a couple pears and I post that the pear is the sweetest fruit ever. Maybe it is, but few will believe me.

And as Littch says, Gara'kal is a best rotation test anyway.

My issue with sims is they are highly in accurate. You take a simulated event and you try to base your performance off of that when these encounters are dynamic. Yes it's a controlled environment however, you're trusting a guy ( in this case guys ) to accurate code, calculate and understand mechanics and not make any mistakes. If you're theorizing based on inaccurate information exactly how are you right?

Slurpee Rogue · 12/06/12, 1:01 PM

just a question on stats priority

i've been using shadowcraft throughout cata and just found out that it's working for 5.1 now. I've been reforging stuff based on the basic "7.5hit/exp > mastery/haste > crit".. however, in using the auto-reforge with shadowcraft, it's suggesting to reforge things into crit and mastery from exp and haste.. so it seems like the priority with shadowcraft for assassination is "7.5hit > mastery/crit > haste..... exp". Is that right?

Velcro187 · 12/06/12, 1:49 PM

question on scaling for specs - ie need xxxxx agi to make surv viable

what stat is best for each spec and at what point does having that stat make it worth switching into that spec.

zang1983 · 12/06/12, 4:00 PM

I have some trouble figuring out what weapons to use (and whether they should be mh or oh).

I have 2 HC daggers from the first boss in MV (ilvl 502) and 1 dagger from Lei Shi normal in Terrace, ilvl 496.

I'm thinking 502 ilvl MH and 496 with legendary gem OH. Any input?

Kwayver · 12/06/12, 6:22 PM

What are the stat weight differences of Strength VS PvP Power?

codezzie · 12/06/12, 7:30 PM

Looks like after getting both the heroic pants and trinket off will, I've reached the point where str > haste.

Listheria · 12/07/12, 6:04 AM

Hello fellow shamans !
I'm a new user of simulation craft (used enhsim before

).
I have a quick question : while using the scale factors in order to check the gear updates, I'm surprised to find out that the "2stats" gems currently proposed are a combination of Hit or Expertise (and then mastery) . Shouldn't the gemming option favorize Agility by all means once the Expertise cap has been reached ?
Could someone explain to me how to modify the gemming' options in order to optimize gemming suggestions as well please ?
Thx alot !

Regorill · 12/07/12, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by razid

Does this Glyph change the point at which you should which over to AoE (See below)?

Also, what would the most optimal DPS method be if there is just 2 targets? Normal single target priority? Or the normal single target priority, but with CL instead of LB?

Pretty much yes, normal single target rotation where CL is subbed for LB; also make sure to keep FS rolling on both targets (assuming one isn't about to die).