Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 199

Eeks · 03/23/09, 11:49 PM

So the results on the op don't factor in the use of t8 bonuses?

Lons · 03/24/09, 2:01 AM

A 9% greater chance to crit on a spell we only cast when we absolutly have to, brilliant...still won't be able to use it effectively unless you glyph for it thus losing the shiny new living bomb glyph which will lower our dps even further. Which either way is still below a destruction locks dps thus we don't get to spec out of it yay for zero sum?

cabrinha · 03/24/09, 3:05 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

I would have actually much preferred if they had nerfed Fire spec personal DPS a few % and put a counter benefit into scorch to counter it (eg +1/2/3% fire damage) rather than do a gimmicky type of change such as this. Is it too late to offer this feedback on the PTR and hope they reconsider?

I entirely agree with you.

Uhoq · 03/24/09, 3:08 AM

Originally Posted by pHishr

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Hi! really cool idea with the unitframes, i mean u almost can see trough em

do u have any more bars than those 2? i mean hidden ones..

morgaine · 03/24/09, 6:03 AM

Originally Posted by Deathnotes

I've been looking and as far as I can see, (though I may have overlooked) this has not yet been mentioned.

What is the list for DoT priority?

When two-three DoTs occasionally tick off at the same time isn't there one you would want to get back up first?
I'm assuming haunt, if it HAPPENS to tick off, though it shouldn't, followed by CoA, Corruption, UA, Immolate, SL? Any thoughts?

Edit: Spelling

I always start out with the following:

SB
Haunt
UA
Immo
CoA
Corr
SL

Then prio is (for me):
Haunt
UA
Immo
CoA
SL

and SB as filler

Corr should stay up due to haunt...

At 25% I stop doing SB and do drain soul and only cast SB if NF procs. I might be off here but it has worked pretty good for me.

jettay · 03/24/09, 6:59 AM

Hello,

I've probably missed something but I can't understand why the current 0/40/31 build is better than this one.

The only difference is a point in "Mana Feed" from "Demonic Embrace".

I think that a OOM Imp is not very usefull compare to 1% PV but the Sim seems to give Extra SP or something else with this Extra Stamina.

Alghieri · 03/24/09, 7:21 AM

I know you haven't integrated the T8 bonuses yet, but once you get around to doing that, could you please run a sim of the 0/40/31 before and after the T8 2 piece bonus change to affliction? it would be interesting to see the amount of damage that one change takes away.

I would do it myself but I don't run windows. Thanks in advance.

HelpMe29 · 03/24/09, 8:58 AM

i have and 80 rogue semi noob played pre bc now that im back into it it seems harder to get my rotation down your more than welcome to armory me sodapop on deathwing server im speced as mut. but i cant get my dps any higher that 1700 on a good day this makes it harder to gear up beacuse i get kicked like a scrub from any group i attend unless w/ guild thank god my guild is cool and they dont kick me lol please shoot me some pointers and tips

Shodan30 · 03/24/09, 9:26 AM

It's Dissapointing that even with the CB change, Full destro is rather low on the list.

duhwhat · 03/24/09, 9:45 AM

Life tap buff upkeep takes priority over all other actions except Haunt debuff upkeep.

Kryptik · 03/24/09, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by Shodan30

Has the OP been updated to reflect the increase in Chaos Bolt damage on the latest PTR?

Read more thoroughly.

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

OP has been updated to reflect the CB base damage and glyph of immolate changes.

Sergius · 03/24/09, 10:12 AM

Apologies if I've missed it, has there been much discussion on hybrid build (0/40/31) glyphs?

I'd say the lifetap and conflag glyphs are required. But have we worked out the relative weightings for the imp/immo/incin glyphs?

With the changes to mana feed imp will never run OOM, the build I linked below has pretty much all imp buffing talents, but I'd still be surprised if its more than 15% of my DPS. 20% on top of that is another 3% total DPS.

The immo glyph will buff both the immo ticks and also conflag damage, I'm not sure how I would go about getting a total % increase in damage from this though.

A straight 5% on incinerate sounds great, but with the current rotations we are looking at fewer incinerate casts, and more curse/immo/conflag/SF casts. I reckon incin would still be about 45%-50% of a locks damage, in which case the 5% bonus would be around a 2.5% total increase, broadly in line with the imp glyph

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...4&version=9722

FATALDAMAGE · 03/24/09, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

I've started putting together gear sets using the T8-level loot that's been discovered on the PTR. I don't think I'll include any of this in the OP quite yet, but here's the result of running the same simulation with the best PTR gear I could find:

This includes T8 2-piece and 4-piece bonuses. The gear sets are as follows:

Warlock_T8_Hit_Gear.simcraft

Warlock_T8_Gear.simcraft

Looks like 41/30 took a big hit... that sucks, I really like that build.

Bessa · 03/24/09, 11:13 AM

We all knew the conflag nerf was coming cant say im surprised, what i am dissappointed in is them nerfing Immolate rather than nerfing Conflags Coeeficient.

Originally Posted by wow2k6

Well I see 0/40/31 still far on top if you forget about the Doomguard...

Which feels about right where it should be, Meta still needs a big boost to catch up, possibly giving the Felguard a Bleed or somthing.

With the change to T8 2 piece would i be right in thinking its now alot bigger boost for Aff spec and would push it out even further with DG up and catch us up in straight non gimmick foramt. (imp/felhunter)

TheXo · 03/24/09, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by HelpMe29

i have and 80 rogue semi noob played pre bc now that im back into it it seems harder to get my rotation down your more than welcome to armory me sodapop on deathwing server im speced as mut. but i cant get my dps any higher that 1700 on a good day this makes it harder to gear up beacuse i get kicked like a scrub from any group i attend unless w/ guild thank god my guild is cool and they dont kick me lol please shoot me some pointers and tips

you could do proper enchants on your head, shoulders, chest, wrist
check your gems: no need to put crit gems in, when your lacking expertise
swap your weapons: faster one MH in your case, or try do get another fast one for your MH

last, but not least: check the pocket guide for info about gemming, rotation and enchants.