Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 203

Serthox · 03/27/09, 7:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rensy

Okay so here is my UI. Trying to give an example of simplicity without sacrificing any function what-so-ever.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...dfdfdfdf-1.jpg

What addon is that green bar, that tracks your Deadly poions ticks (it seems like)?

Oblivium · 03/27/09, 7:59 AM

I was really hoping to go back to Blood (since the leveling days) because as much as I love Unholy, a little change would be (is always) good.

But based on all your reports, not only Blood is not as good as it was predicted to be, but also, it seems, it will be worse than ever.

Oh well... keep Unholy, then.

*sigh*

ltdeta · 03/27/09, 8:25 AM

i don't know this addon but i use this one MutilatePoints

it tracks your Deadly poions and combo point ticks

deadlyice · 03/27/09, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

Yes, mages are that far behind, except for Arcane; SimulationCraft handles Arcane rotations poorly. Arcane DPS is actually within a couple % of Fire.

Why are mages falling so far behind? 10% behind warlocks and rogues? 15% behind feral druids? dats crazy!

kryyformlol · 03/27/09, 10:25 AM

So I was reading the patch notes and it looks like they lowered that damage on Death strike, does this mean they want us back to obliterate? I personally still haven't had the chance to test it on the ptr since I'm at work.

Keruen · 03/27/09, 10:28 AM

What about a spec like this for those who might not want to deal with an uncontrollable ghoul?

The idea would be to get the biggest Death Coils possible. Since not using a ghoul (or popping it right before a pull and hoping it lasts a few seconds before getting owned) frees up a glyph slot, the IT glyph becomes a somewhat attractive option for Blood, due to the extra RP generation.

Since Blood seems to be remaining about spamming HS, thus it will be pretty GCD-limited, you'd probably need to stay in Unholy presence (unless the extra RP from RPM gives enough of a buffer that you can DPS in Blood presence without sitting at 130 RP and wasting it).

The last 2 points I put into Annihilation just because I didn't really know where to put them - I figured 2% more crit on melee abilities is better than 2% more strength. You could also put them into Icy Talons for 8% more haste, dunno. But Epidemic isn't really necessary with this build since you'll want to cast IT as often as possible for the extra RP.

Again I have no idea how viable this is, never really played Blood much aside from leveling. Just seemed like a decent option for those who don't want an uncontrollable ghoul that will have more survivability, but less DPS since it won't be getting a lot of raid buffs.

IggyMac · 03/27/09, 11:16 AM

Tinava · 03/27/09, 11:35 AM

Hmm. Reviewing the OP, I see that lifetap glyph has taken precedence over the incinerate glyph on fire builds. Is it that big of a dps increase over the incinerate glyph then?

CagedShogun · 03/27/09, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by david0925

In addition, as mentioned above, your trinket isn't nerfed in terms of absolute number, and you will still see an increase in dps contribution. It's just that agility one is better now, and I can somewhat understand your frustration, but getting another card isn't a very daunting task.

I leveled inscription for the soul purpose of making a nobles deck. I don't have an herbalist so every mat used was from the AH. I made my deck within the first month or so of lich king. All in all I spent around 10k making the deck but made about 5k back selling other cards,decks etc. So for about 5k I got the best in slot trinket. I guess to some that doesn't seem like a daunting task but it does take a lot of gold which I am not about to pony up again because blizzard feels the need to adjust our stats/mechanics. Now I understand that gear can't last forever. Items get replaced with upgrades. Items get nerfed. Ok, fine. Mine was neither of those. Mine was due to a change in class mechanics or talents whatever you want to call it. So I will put in a ticket and I will argue my point with which ever drone gm they send out. Am I optimistic about getting it swapped out? NO! I will try though and I'll probably put a ticket in every day complaining about it...lol

Bosmonster · 03/27/09, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by gherkin

Using 3/13/55 as an example:

Using 1.49 spell power scaling and 500 spirit, 500 x .2 x 1.49 = Glyph of Life Tap (every 20) is 149 dps for 20 seconds

Incinerate's DPET (Damage Per Execution Time) is 4984 which makes up 48% of your dps, 4984 x .05 x .48 = Glyph of Incinerate119.6 dps.

Using Lifetap "As needed" (estimate puts it at around 30 seconds, dependant on Replenishment, mana pool, etc) makes Glyph of Lifetap (as needed) 100 dps (20/30 = 2/3rds as much).

However, you can lifetap while moving such that it doesn't mess with your rotation when you have time to dps. You can't incinerate while moving.

In other words, it is a fairly close call and depends on your preferred playstyle.

I can imagine people not wanting to have their dps rely partially on Life tap, but rather take the Incinerate glyph.

Personal choice.

For Affliction however (or non-Incinerate builds in general), Lifetap glyph doesn't really have dps-competition.

Valiad · 03/27/09, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by stickums

Not sure if it was mentioned, and it's a trivial change.. but Massacre (and I assume other enchants) shows up on Journey's End now.

Finally, having a simple wood staff with no glow on my back was uber boring at least for me so far.

irani · 03/27/09, 12:55 PM

what is the best spec for combat using 2 swords? and the best dps rotation?

Tharvos · 03/27/09, 1:37 PM

Wow the new t8 stats suck hard... I didn't expect them changing it from bad to even worse.
Why so much haste again? Why so much stamina, even more than it had before. And am i right that it has less total crit than the current DPS25 t7?
The armorpenetration was fine. T7 was more in favor for Unholy/Frost DKs, T8 is (ok was) in favor for Blood dks.
Now its just.... meh....

wrxhokie · 03/27/09, 3:11 PM

Cool Thanks all.

Kogan64 · 03/27/09, 3:22 PM

I know its a bit off subject but with the changes to the Wolf AP buff would using that pet be better for Survival or should I continue with the Raptor?