Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 204

swortsoul · 03/27/09, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

Sample test case: 2088 spell power, hit-capped, 27% crit, 18% haste (in 10-man raid buffs). Rawr's selected rotation shows IS/MF/W. No Eclipse, but does have Starfire glyph, so effective rotation is MF/SFx3/IS/WxN.

Illustration of the Dragon Soul: 210.0 DPS
Embrace of the Spider: 143.1 DPS
Sundial of the Exiled: 128.5 DPS
Dying Curse: 117.0 DPS
Thunder Capacitor: 116.6 DPS
Forge Ember: 115.8 DPS
Extract of Necromantic Power: 102.3 DPS

That's the output from Rawr for the top caster trinkets. Mark of the War Prisoner is worth 94.3 DPS if you need the hit, 43.5 DPS without. Similar numbers for the JC trinket.

So this leads me to a question, which I've searched for but failed, how much dps is +50 SP? I assume that depends on the spell cast (2.5 second cast time, compared to something faster for example). The reason I ask, is that I'm trying to figure out if it's worth dropping the Mark of the War Prisoner for the Sundial of the Exiled. I'd have to re-gem to stay hit capped, which would drop around 50 SP.

Is that worth considering?

Vereessa · 03/27/09, 4:11 PM

Hi, I was wondering if there is an addon which can monitor AttT mechanism timing. Something like swing timer but for AttT counting.

So I could get small amouth of ATP ( 150 ) for about 28s by switching betwen my armor and dps gear at right moment.

Thx for answears.

Humbaba · 03/27/09, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by redding

Hit 6000 DPS on patch last wednesday, thats pretty good, havn't seen many boomkins over around 6k.

Wow Web Stats

I hate to piss in your Cheerios, but that says 5959, not 6k. Nice job regardless, though.

redding · 03/27/09, 9:45 PM

sorry

i like my cheerios now they are all wet

Feryar · 03/27/09, 9:45 PM

Since you can only swap weapons while in combat, I am not sure how that will work.
If you plan to swap a shield on, keep in mind that it will trigger a GCD, and you would be really lucky to have a GCD spare just before the calculation is made.

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zarya · 03/28/09, 12:52 AM

quick question.

have you considered, the spirit nerf coming in with 3.1 or is all stats for pre 3.1

Zyreal · 03/28/09, 3:46 AM

Alright guys, I need some of your awesome advice, I'm currently rocking some pretty sweet gear (The World of Warcraft Armory) and I'm still pulling under par dps (5.9k avg) for what i believe i could be pulling with my gear. I'm 17/0/54 and I'm using the PS->IT->BSx2->SSx4 with RD in between the SS's. Any advice you guys can give me? gear? rotation? spec? anything at all? any and all advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

Foxx2405 · 03/28/09, 4:00 AM

Originally Posted by Zyreal

Alright guys, I need some of your awesome advice, I'm currently rocking some pretty sweet gear (The World of Warcraft Armory) and I'm still pulling under par dps (5.9k avg) for what i believe i could be pulling with my gear. I'm 17/0/54 and I'm using the PS->IT->BSx2->SSx4 with RD in between the SS's. Any advice you guys can give me? gear? rotation? spec? anything at all? any and all advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

1. Review some of your gems, i'm seeing str + hit gems when you're already waaay over the hitcap

2. Drop the grim toll trinket, its beyond awful for an unholy DK

3. Sigil of Awareness would help

4. I don't see how you think 5.9k dps is in any way bad dps... I'm not sure what you think good dk dps is, but unless you think those 1.5 minute patchwerk kills with 7k dps are standard numbers you're horribly wrong.

Zyreal · 03/28/09, 4:34 AM

Originally Posted by Foxx2405

1. Review some of your gems, i'm seeing str + hit gems when you're already waaay over the hitcap

i thought that hit cap for unholy DK's was 302? Am i incorrect? and the only reason im using Grim toll is b/c the fact that it gives me + 84 hit rating and allows me to gem out of +hit rating gems and into + str gems. FYI with my Betrayer im 18 expertise which i believe is the exact cap.

Devnex · 03/28/09, 4:58 AM

Originally Posted by Zyreal

i thought that hit cap for unholy DK's was 302? Am i incorrect? and the only reason im using Grim toll is b/c the fact that it gives me + 84 hit rating and allows me to gem out of +hit rating gems and into + str gems. FYI with my Betrayer im 18 expertise which i believe is the exact cap.

Melee hit cap is 263, spell hit cap is 289 assuming 3/3 virulence. Basically you're best off hitting the melee hit cap (263) and gemming pure strength from then on in.

If you want to see some dps improvement regem your gear and pick up better trinkets as soon as you can (greatness is an amazing dps increase and you can farm the materials for it outside of raids barring that mirror of truth is easy as heck to pick up and better than your current trinkets).

All of that having been said 5.9k on non gimmick fights is very good dps.

Zyreal · 03/28/09, 4:58 AM

WoW i didn't know whtat 263 was the cap... I am way over =/ o well i can fix that. However, i terms of the trinkets, what one (other than greatness which i am currently working for) would you guys recommend? Fury of 5? Mirror? or any others?

NeuroMedivh · 03/28/09, 5:00 AM

The soft cap for a 2h DK is 8% hit, which is 262.

If you really want to maximize your DPS, drop the alchemy for Jewelcrafting. The ability to use prismatic gems to satisfy socket and meta requirements is amazing, and only requires 375 JC. You'd get an extra 33 Strength from the three Prismatics, plus you'd pick up another 16 strength (head, shoulders, belt) from socket bonuses, AND you could replace that Relentless Earthsiege Meta with a Chaotic Skyflare (which is far better for you).

Exoduz · 03/28/09, 5:21 AM

Hello, i have a simple question

can tailoring with the new enchant beat enchanting?

Sojik · 03/28/09, 6:43 AM

Originally Posted by Exoduz

Hello, i have a simple question

can tailoring with the new enchant beat enchanting?

Yes. It beats everything.