Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 212

Myradral · 04/03/09, 8:37 AM

I am a confused shaman.

I've read all the posts, threads, topics.... and Google-Searched everything related to "Enhancement Shaman DPS Mechanics Rotation WOW WOTLK" etc..........

And NOTHING talks about this topic:

LAVA BURST.

Seriously. - I mean.........WTF? Here's a spell... that we can use, which GUARANTEES us a 9% increase in Critical Strike Rating - for 10 seconds (Assuming you have 3 points in elemental devastation.)

Now...... I haven't applied a 3-dimensional cross-tabbed coefficient model to determine the optimal DPS for all this ............. /gag.............. but I CAN tell you this:

When I utilized LAVA BURST in my rotation - i.e. tossed it in whenever Elemental Devastation was not up, my DPS jumped from:

WITHOUT LAVA BURST: 2134

WITH LAVA BURST: 2547

Now,............ a couple of other things. - My gear still stinks, relatively speaking. I'm not decked out in all 213 /226 epics yet - but I've been playing a shammy as an alt for years now,... and there is definitely something to this LAVA BURST,... which I have not seen addressed in your forums. Anyways,.. here is my profile if you want to review. - NO RIPPING - this is an ALT. - but I love the class... and I like to DPS occasionally. (Main is a healer.)

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So............... can you comment or, possibly, direct me to a discussion around the utilization of LAVA BURST in an Enhancement Shammy's DPS rotation? - and/or explain where I am off here?

I mean,.. what's the point in the spell, if not for this?

Myradral · 04/03/09, 9:01 AM

I thought I would add a few more comments....

I only really "stumbled" on this last night doin a Naxx run - as I hit the wrong button - hitting Lava Burst instead of Lava Lash - and... well... when it consumed my Flame Shock... and I got the automatic elemental devastation. - well... let's just say the numbers coming off the screen for the next 10 seconds were "jizzable". 8) SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......... it got me thinking.

I mean,.. a standard rotation for an enhancement shammy is something like:

Lightning Bolt if Maelstrom Weapon is at 5 stacks
else Stormstrike if available
else Earth Shock if available
else Lava Lash if available

(Straight from Elitist Jerks' forum - source: Shaman: Enhancement )

So I've been jamming with this mostly.

But I have been thinking of something more along the lines of this:

Stormstrike
Flame Shock
Lava Burst
Lightning Bolt (Or Chain Lightning) if Maelstrom Weapon is at 5 stacks
else Earth Shock

(along with Spirit Wolves, totems, etc... as needed, according to timers, etc.)

Would love some feedback on this.

PLEASE. :shock:

Myradral · 04/03/09, 9:19 AM

ok.. something is FUBAR.

I just ran a test on some dummies in Orgrimmar.

Results:

WITH Lava Burst: 2958 DPS

WITHOUT Lava Burst: 2185 DPS

Uhm........... something seems extremely whacko.

Is it my gear?!?

HELP!

Humpall · 04/03/09, 10:19 AM

I was just wondering about a spec for destro with doomguard... basically modifying the normal destro spec going into demonology for imprpoved fel armour, instead going 20/0/51. something like

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...0&version=9757

I see that in the deep destro rotation CoD is used as in 3.1 CoA is no longer used to proc MC. would the doomguards increased dps over imp (??? questionable after 3.1 nerf ???) and improved Corr, and CoA be any dps gain at all over the simcrafted deep destro spec?

I think that some of the talents are a definate boost, for example the nightfall procs i think would make shadowbolt worth casting when backdraft is not up and nightfall is of course. and the decreased GCD on curses do give you an extra GCD for a destro spell every 72 seconds... would improved CoA and decreased GCD on it make it worth casting over doom? and would the corruption talents make it worthwhile casting at all??
For longer fights i see the improved life tap to be advantageous and the 5% improved seed of corruption damage also... although

Just a thought... wondered if its able to be calculated, or if theres even any point... btw, new on these forums, i know that spec posting is frowned upon??? its not a zomg, check my spec post....

Bruscha · 04/03/09, 10:22 AM

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Thanks for any help.

Jakoemanou · 04/03/09, 10:23 AM

Currenly i running raids with 4 set bonus for T 7.5 activated(as Arms DPS). But how good is this?? Both [Obsidian Greathelm] and [Crude Discolored Battlegrips] are upgrades for sure but then i loose the 4 set bonus.

Humpall · 04/03/09, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Moony

Taking into account you cannot walk around with a doomguard all the time, you will have to use other pet most of the time, gimping your dps lacking the important IMP talents on destro/demo.

Regarding COA, i already read here that doom > COA even if talented, but someone more educated in the manner can shed more light into this
Regarding Corruption extra damage, I rather have my rotation clear now that we are lifetapping for the glyph proc, and since most of your destruction talents increase fire-damage, your scalability wont be so hot on corruption in the long run.
Regarding the beneficts of seed of corruption, i was under the impression that destro was more of a rain of fire fan

Cheers

I was more thinking of it to be a spec to use when you are able to use DG, then swap back to the imp spec when not.... doom > CoA even with amplify curse? i do see what you mean about the lack of scaling with corroption tho...

• vank · 04/03/09, 11:58 AM

Methods, I really respect your analysis of the class and would be happy to post something for you on the US forums. PM me if it's something you'd like to do.

karloz · 04/03/09, 4:28 PM

well ive been away from the game from pretty much 2 months but still ive been reading forums well w/e ypu prolly dont care...

1st loque'nahak spirit strike still worths the painfull labor to tame him? or is savage rend still over that ?

2nd ive been reading teh forums skippin some pages and that but ive seen you put Multi shot and Aimed shot in the same line of priority or sometimes its not even mentioned calling multishot instead: so besides the flexibility on trap-dance and that does it worth the point or shall i put it somewhere else.

Rustyblood · 04/03/09, 4:42 PM

Hey guys.

So I'm fairly new to the DPS side of things. I have been a healer for 4 years, and switched to DPS when DKs came out.

I have been 80 for about 3 or 4 weeks now, and I attend raids regularly with my guild.

I think my gear is alright, but the damage that I am outputting seems... poor. Very poor.

I am quite disappointed with myself, and am looking for advice to increase my DPS.

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This is my gear.

My rotation is simply the basic deseaseless rotation of:

OB>OB>HS>HS>DCs
HS>HS>HS>HS>HS>HS>DCs

DCing whenever I get sudden doom procs, and saving DRW and Hystaria for when I have Heroism and as many procs as possible.

So that is what I am doing.. but I am getting beat out by mages and hunters and fury warriors really easily. They have slightly better gear then me, but they are beating my by large margins. (Example.. on patch this week I only got ~4k while others were over 5)

If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Naturally · 04/03/09, 5:25 PM

Hi, I'm new to the forums and I have a quick question. I have browsed most of the threads and can't seem to find the exact verdict on whether or not Webbed Death is in fact a better OH for hat than Sinister Revenge. I am mostly seeing from discussions that faster weapons are better for poison procs, at least until 3.1. Anyone have some advice for me? Thanks!

Edit: Ahh nevermind, just found it! Thanks anyway!

Evisceratur · 04/03/09, 5:37 PM

I have a lvl 30 Enhancement Shaman. I could use some information about the basics; when do u get dual wield, when can u wear mail, etc. I've looked around for any posts/threads that talk about the basics and haven't found any. Could someone recommend a post/thread/link that covers the really "Newb" stuff?

Thanks

Onslaught · 04/03/09, 7:47 PM

Which poisons do u use for the Evis build ?

angryviper · 04/03/09, 9:52 PM

I had a question regarding rotation. I normally spam my SS button until I get 5 points, hit SnD and then continuing spamming SS until I get 5 points for Rupture. Normally by then I have to refresh SnD and barely get a chance to get off a 5 CP evnom/evis.

Is there something I might be doing wrong?

imz · 04/04/09, 1:20 AM

Hello,

I recently specced 21/50/00 on Live with the recommended Glyphs in OP. I used IT BS FS OB FS OB FS as my rotation and was doing 2.5k on Heroic Test Dummy w/ HoW up. Does that seem about right? Is my expertise killing me?

HB seems lethal on trash to me. What kind of rotation do I want to use on trash? I've been playing Unholy for a while, but Frost seems even stronger on trash.

Thanks!