frost strike change is kind of a bummer, but it looks like frost got a net buff for the most part

How is a nerf a nice change? You must be sweating buckets over our "nice" Shaman changes, I mean, they addressed none of our actual PvE issues or PvP issues!

Apologies, I missed that. Still, 25% boost in mp/5 - is this only on gear or is WS included? If WS is included then it's actually a buff overall, otherwise it's probably an overall nerf. I have 189 mp/5 while casting unbuffed - just from gear - the buff would give me an extra 47.25 mp/5. It's a slight nerf then, it's not too bad.

I was about to ask if the changes to UB would cause it to outperform DRW.

Thank you!

I'm thinking the same thing if not from at least a practical point of view..

however, 21 point talent outperforming a 51 point talent probably wont last (if its the case).

And it will also be interesting to see if the LifeTap glyph change pushes it back into the top 3 for Destro.

Yea this changes a lot... just... wow.

I mean BS w/ armor pen might even be the way to go... FS got a decent nerf.

IT PS OB BS BS - OB BS BS BS BS ? Haven't thought much about it. could be way off.

Yes I must say it puts a little tingle in my bones to think that DW be a more realistic option again, I guess once PTR is up the number crunchers will hit them and we will be flooded with a whole lot of info

Thank you for this, answered my previous question. :]

/agree

rotation will probably change, that's about it. DPS lost... a little. I think we all saw that coming. if you didn't... you're a little clueless.

Seriously? Of any of the trees, Unholy had the most points to play with. Morbidity? 1 pt from WP/EP? don't be so dramatic.

I wish they'd just make a seperate pvp ruleset. I hate when pve stuff gets nerfed due to pvp balance.

so there is a lot of good information here, and a lot of these interfaces look very slick - but this is the software side...

I am wondering from a hardware side how some of you set up stuff - I realize this is all personal preferences, but any ideas to cut reaction times are appreciated

1) What kind of mouse do you use - what spells do you bind to your multibutton mice and which buttons work best for you
2) Do you use a game controller?
3) do you use keyboard to navigate, if so arrow or letter keys?
4) what macros to you bind to which keys

etc etc etc.

Lol because pve was so balanced before?

Well no, that's not what I meant.

How far apart are awareness and vengeful heart right now? The unholy blight change alone is a straight buff to vengeful heart, and the possibility of using scourgestrike less is a potential awareness nerf.

i dont understand the new patch note!

with L&L is it possible to hit a boss with Explotion arrow or is it not with the L&L proc??

plz send me a message

Hey EJ. You guys are really the best at what the thoery crafting and math, where as I fail at math. Which leads me to my question. How can i determine if the increased intellect from ancestral knowledge (5/5) is enough of Ap with Mental Dexterity to beat the damage output of all 3 points in improved LS. Because as of now, its one or the other, i wish i could i free up my improved Wf totem points but the 3 dks we bring are unholy and blood /sigh. Thanks EJ

Yes, 3.1 + talent changes. People were specualting, I used some numbers. I'll explain my thoughts on the imp here.

Forgive me if I get this wrong, as I said I'm not good with probability. If I have a 40% chance to crit that is increased to 60% some of the time (which results in a ~120 dps gain), then a 40% chance to crit that is increased to 100% some of the time should result in a fair amount more dps. Despite the talent being tripled in this case (20% --> 60%) the dps doesn't triple due to probability. As you approach 100%, the value per point is decreased.

My imp had around 17% crit and cast 162 times. This "should" result in 27-28 crits. Before the buff I would have a 60% chance to crit for around 12k (6k hit).

Napkin math:
27 non crits x 6k damage x 40% to do so = 65k damage
27 crits x 12k damage per crit x 60% chance to crit = 194.4k damage
Total damage: 259.4k

27 crits x 12k damage x 100% chance to crit = 324k damage

Increase of 25%, for my gear level. Thus 120 dps x 1.25 = 150dps, which is close to the F&B nerf (and less than I expected). Considering that sometimes I will be critting with Chaos Bolt/Conflag (more damage) or Immolate (less damage) I suppose this works out, but is subjective to when the Imp crits.

This is just a little thing, I know, but isn't the Emblem change going to make it impossible to get the Achievements for 1000 Emblems of Heroism and Valor after 3.2?

Just got my 4 piece last night was curious if there is a new spec to use ,also if anyone could take a look at my character and tell me if i should change anything..i know gloves are not enchanted yet ,

If this is wrong thread to post in let me know thxs

we loose a steady 5% damage , we pick up an extra 80% to crit on one spell that was already criting, just less frequent, this cant possibly be a buff in a real raid situation.

With this being said, im sure blizz intended the imp buff to balance out the f+b nerf, so most likley if the numbers dont prove true they will adjust it accordingly, i have faith in blizz.