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Old 04/11/09, 1:38 AM   #3301
Zure
Don Flamenco
 
Undead Mage
 
Nathrezim
Originally Posted by Sunfire View Post
Sadly that was my experience though I didnt say it earlier. If I was scorching as fireball on the PTR I was regularly outdpsed by a moonkin, DK, and ret pally that were at a similar gear level, even the arcane mage with us on Hodir and Ignis was beaten soundly by the Moonkin and DK on both fights ... I didnt want to make too big a deal of that aspect yet though since some people would argue the bosses I tested are somewhat melee slanted (though it didnt seem to affect the Locks place in the pecking order).
While I have not researched the issue in depth myself, I know that many moonkins are up in arms about the sub-par itemization they are looking forward to in Ulduar (spirit and hit heavy gear for a spec that does not make great use of spirit and only needs 9-10% hit; plus a lackluster 4 piece bonus). While this sucks as they will likely try to snap up cloth items more than ever, it very well might limit their dps effectively.

Can't comment on DKs and Rets.

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Old 04/11/09, 4:05 AM   #3302
kylaran
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
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Demon Soul
Has there been any testing done on whether or not regular life taps should be dropped in execution range WITH bloodlust for a 40/31 spec?

And, while we're at it, whether or not corruption would still be worth it at execute range with the said spec?

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Old 04/11/09, 5:35 AM   #3303
koetjeka
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Gnome Mage
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Originally Posted by Sunfire View Post
Deleted this post - sorry was straying into the whine territory - no use arguing about our relative 3.1 DPS here.
offtopic: sunfire from deathwing?

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Old 04/11/09, 6:25 AM   #3304
souldaze
 
Undead Warlock
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
i use the razer tarantular keyboard and razer lachesis mouse also i recomend a nice frosted glass steel series mouse mat

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Old 04/11/09, 10:19 AM   #3305
mistrssdixie
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Human Warlock
 
Kirin Tor
the reason i have points in cataclysm is because i am gonna be switchin out the hit gems for haste gems. cause my haste is only a lil over 400 an i am aimin for over 500 at least..with out my spellstone. would love to get it close to 600 but with the lack of sockets..im gonna be losin alot of spell damage if i do so. so just switchin some hit out for haste. an when the patch comes out..i gotta put those points into supression.

i tweaked it some..but i do have a question. y put the points in imp void. if it only gives my fel guard 3% increase. i mean i had them in it..but i took them out..cause every1 kept tellin me i didnt need it cause i never ever use my void walker anymore. my felguard or imp is always out.


now with the new patch comin out. that is gonna be a big thing for me. i looked at the talent tree redo..an have played with it on ptr..an it seems that affliction is still gonna pone me..so can u make a suggestion on that as well if u dont mind.

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Old 04/11/09, 10:24 AM   #3306
Dragonlance13
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Moon Guard
I am looking for some advise on how to increase my DPS in Boomkin form. I am currently doing 3746 DPS on Patchwork. My rotation is IFF > IS > MF > Wrath until Eclipse > SF until Eclipse drops, then repeat.

My gear and spec are here:
The World of Warcraft Armory


Thanks in advance
Dragonlance

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Old 04/11/09, 10:54 AM   #3307
Hunt
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Sylvanas (EU)
Originally Posted by Mippy View Post
Should I drop the 4-5k on a Surge Needle Ring (to replace Ring of Invincibility) before the patch? If I do that, Frosted Adroit drop for me (I should be next in line), and switch back to my Leggings of Failed Escape, I could drop my Grim Toll for something else (don't have anything else to use really atm and not close to F5F, but maybe a Bandit's will drop for me, or I could make a Death deck, which is getting buffed).
well,according with MaxDPS.com - World of Warcraft Gear Rankings - News ,Surge Needle Ring is the best one atm
droped for me on 3rd Malygos run,good thing that is BOE item and unlucky ppl can get it from AH..4-6k on my server,but is worth in my opinion
Also,with Frosted androit gloves and leggings of failed escape,assuming that you are hit caped,you can change grim toll with Nobles Deck ..ofcourse not cheap but worthly

Last edited by Hunt : 04/11/09 at 11:32 AM.

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Old 04/11/09, 11:03 AM   #3308
Latas
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Uther
Originally Posted by Dragonlance13 View Post
I am looking for some advise on how to increase my DPS in Boomkin form. I am currently doing 3746 DPS on Patchwork. My rotation is IFF > IS > MF > Wrath until Eclipse > SF until Eclipse drops, then repeat.

My gear and spec are here:
The World of Warcraft Armory


Thanks in advance
Dragonlance
First off Force of Nature and Starfall are both decent dps and well worth picking up for the one point. You shouldn't really need any points in dreamstate if you already have intensity and OoC. You should probably also pick up Nature's Splendor to lower the amount of refreshing you might have to do.

Gearwise the major glaring flaw i see is that you have the completely wrong meta, you should have the chaotic skyflare diamond in there. Also its minor but if you aren't having stamina troubles i would switch to the spellpower spirit leg patch.

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Old 04/11/09, 11:12 AM   #3309
Veldryn
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mug'thol (EU)
How much DPS do you make on a Heroic Training Dummy (Boss)? I make about 2.4k to 2.6k with 4 of 5 tier 7.5. My Rotation is J > CS > DS > Cons without HoW. I take care....

3.02 Speed @ 308 Haste
4346 Attack Power (Selfbuffed with improved BoM)
163 Hit Rating
37.25 % Crit
12 Expertise

My DPS sucks, or? I need help.

~vel

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Old 04/11/09, 12:17 PM   #3310
saibot
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Human Paladin
 
Talnivarr (EU)
Originally Posted by Veldryn View Post
How much DPS do you make on a Heroic Training Dummy (Boss)? I make about 2.4k to 2.6k with 4 of 5 tier 7.5. My Rotation is J > CS > DS > Cons without HoW. I take care....

3.02 Speed @ 308 Haste
4346 Attack Power (Selfbuffed with improved BoM)
163 Hit Rating
37.25 % Crit
12 Expertise

My DPS sucks, or? I need help.

~vel
You need to step into a raid. Training Dummies are the worst way to measure your DPS since some of your core abilities do not work well on them and you are missing very vital raid buffs.

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Old 04/11/09, 12:29 PM   #3311
sepirion
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Draenei Paladin
 
Icecrown
Dummies are unfit to visualize raid dps, yes, but they are a useful measure when comparing data against the same class. Waiting a week for something like Patch in order to see if tweaks you've made have helped our hindered isn't the best situation, and I think Dummy DPS could be used as a baseline for those that need to "un-suck."

Edit: That said, last time I remember using the dummies I was around 2700dps self buffed. No idea how it compares to others, but there you are.

Last edited by sepirion : 04/11/09 at 12:35 PM.

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Old 04/11/09, 1:47 PM   #3312
Terror
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Bronzebeard
Rotation priorities & Blood spec + Haste

Hey guys I'm a first time poster so I'm sry if this is a bad post or posted in the wrong place. After scowering the forums for info I can't help but wonder if I'm doing something wrong or if I could be doing something better (DPS wise), and since EJ seems to be the most concise source I figured I'd ask you guys.

Right now I'm using Heart Strike as my primary attack and prioritize it above all others. The only time I do DC's are when Sudden Doom procs, and the only time I do Oblit's are right before my diseases are about to tick off so as to not waste them. Basically if Heart Strike is available, I'm hitting it unless my diseases need to be re-done. As you can see in my chart Oblit is not carrying as much weight as my top two and I'm wondering if it should be higher? Should I be using Oblit as my primary? Also, with haste affecting melee swing rates and it being my second contributor should I be investing in some haste?

Thanks in advance. Btw, the chart is from 25 Naxx and I got two new pieces of gear that aren't factored in.


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Old 04/11/09, 4:42 PM   #3313
Epicness
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether
Hey guys.
I know that most specs seem to be very close, but for the people testing out blood and unholy specs, what rotations do you use. If you could tell me a good blood and unholy rotation in 3.1, I would be very happy

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Old 04/11/09, 7:20 PM   #3314
Perforate
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Orc Hunter
 
Suramar
Originally Posted by arlen View Post
OmniCC does what you're looking for.
Sir you are both a scholar and a gentlemen! Thanks

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Old 04/11/09, 7:22 PM   #3315
Gualdhar
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Worgen Warlock
 
Lightbringer
Talent build questions

nevermind

Last edited by Gualdhar : 04/12/09 at 4:37 PM.

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