Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 23

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:30 PM

I totally missed out on the Executioner spreadsheet bug.

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:31 PM

Somehow i've allways been very interested in Paladins DPS in PvE... this was a nice read, thank you.

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:33 PM

Thanks, this helped me alot when the guild wanted me to change spec due to lack of healers and my apparently 'imba' offset.

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:34 PM

Thank you!

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:35 PM

I remember the good old 3xAB/AM/Scorch rotation, more fun that way.

Libbler · 09/11/08, 12:36 PM

Thank you!

Paragoon · 09/11/08, 1:27 PM

Looks like Armor Penetration is moving to a Rating model as well:

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...amas_25_10.jpg

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...arrior_dps.jpg

kindath · 09/11/08, 1:40 PM

Originally Posted by nuoHep

- Improved Poisons are fixed and nerfed. Giving 3% per rank. Does not apply to Mind-Numbing and Wounding

T-T

turturin · 09/11/08, 6:33 PM

Originally Posted by SageoftheTimes

Blizzard has stated that they're going to make things viable, and I'd say they will. They're probably just testing some stuff. We still barely know what the talents will do (Everlasting Affliction in it's current incarnation is a great example of vague wording). They've been doing some majour changes recently. Retadins said the same thing about their class being ruined, and with the latest changes, they gain 20% of their max mana every time they judge (about every 8 seconds + lag/latency). Things will change.

I agree. Please save the doom and gloom posts for the WoW forums. They contribute nothing to this discussion.

Narwe · 09/11/08, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by SageoftheTimes

CLAMS NOW STACK.

Finally!

Waylin · 09/11/08, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by SageoftheTimes

CLAMS NOW STACK.

Stacking clams! It is a glorious day, clamrades! There are enough clams for one and all, no need to be shellfish.

Perhaps they'll make the logical leap from clams to soul shards...

zxixa · 09/12/08, 6:12 AM

thanks korlash, unfortunalty i dont have access to beta server, so as you can imagine i have lots of questions, it would be great if the topic of pets could be updated once and a while to keep us hunters who have not got beta keys in the loop.

thanks for the info.

Khural · 09/12/08, 11:37 AM

I'm really sorry if this is the wrong place to point this out, every thread I found was closed and this is my first post ever so I couldn't make my own thread.

I found that something wasn't pointed out here about Expertise that should be as I think it is very important:

Orcs should prioritize axes for the +5 Expertise racial bonus. This is applied per hand non stacking, so an axe/mace combo only applies expertise to the axe, and an axe/axe combo would apply 5 Expertise to each hand (which would be the same as having 5 Expertise on an armor item).

Orcs get Expertise with axes, this is NOT the same as Expertise Rating that you find on items. It is the same thing only 1 Expertise is equal to 4 Expertise Rating.

The Orc 5 Expertise racial therefore gives us the equivalent to 20 Expertise Rating.
Alternatively, Shard of Contempt for example with 44 Expertise Rating equals 11 Expertise.

I apologise again if this has been pointed out, but your comparison of orc expertise being the same as expertise on items is incorrect as items only use Expertise Rating and not Expertise.

~

The other thing I wanted to point out was regarding "Use" trinkets like Berserker's Call which I will use as an example.
Your calculation for the EP value is very nice, finding the amount of AP it gives over its 20 seconds Activated Use and spreading it over the whole cooldown. However there is a fundamental flaw in this.

I use the Orc Racial (Blood Fury), Berserker's Call, Shamanistic Rage and a Haste Pot at the same time in a macro. Now during the full "Use" of my orc racial and 75% of Berserker's Call I'm benefitting from +400 haste.
Therefore, if you are spreading the EP value of it over the whole 2min CD... they become more powerful because you would also spread the "Use" of the Haste Pot over the 2min.

I'm not 100% sure and have not done the maths, but then how would I go about finding the true EP value of this item? Other chance on hit items cannot be given the same boost from Haste Pots and other "Use" trinkets that will scale with it.

~ Khural

Malan · 09/12/08, 6:16 PM

I'm dumbfounded by the level of stupidity in your post.

Theblueoval · 09/13/08, 3:29 AM

Warhammer has oceanic (Singapore) based servers. Providing Australians with decent latency (although i do not know exactly the values).

Deathnotes · 09/13/08, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by Arelenda

I suggest you look up Leulier's spreadsheet, fill in your values and find out.

You spend the time to correctly fix it, and I will be glad to

Lavis Knight · 09/13/08, 1:39 PM

I hope they leave JOTW the way it is now.

TheDoc · 09/13/08, 3:12 PM

Totally Awesome, thank you very much.

thescreensavers · 09/13/08, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by Vontre

I'm aware of the issue and am fixing it now.

The good news is things should be much faster than they were before!

woot

Mournblade · 09/14/08, 12:19 PM

Heh, is nobody using the spreadsheet anymore?

Khornn · 09/14/08, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by Althor

There are 2 in Stormwind's warrior sector. At least one is a boss level mob. Both only have 1 health though so some talents/spells don't work correctly with them.

There are also 6 in Theramore. These are level 1 dummies again with only 1 health point. These ones have the advantage of being grouped up though so they're good for testing AoE.

I think it would be great idea to have training dummies for tanks and healers too. Anyone know if Blizzard has any plans to add those ?

deemor · 09/14/08, 8:40 PM

*edit*
specc is 2 posts after this one

maybe 1 pt from daggercrit to infectious poison if it gives more dps

deemor · 09/14/08, 8:59 PM

*edit*

pasted the wrong specc, i ment this one 51/13/7

xiaoxin21 · 09/14/08, 9:17 PM

Originally Posted by Alcyon

What other healing items have suddenly become interesting for us?

for 1 you have [Shroud of the Highborne],2% haste and 36 spellpower

Praest · 09/15/08, 3:51 AM

Doesn't seem to be listed here, but Wowhead is now saying that the releasedate for Wotlk is the 13th of november and they're calling this releasedate official, so I guess it came from Blizz HQ.

They are after all an official fansite and I doubt they would speculate: Wowhead: OMG IT'S ALMOST HERE

EDIT: This also leaves little time for any serious redesigns of the mage concerns brought up, but my hope remains that we are getting some kind of neat buff to the weak areas.