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Old 04/17/09, 8:09 AM   #3541
bkoehler
Banned
 
Orc Shaman
 
Shattered Halls
During last night's progression we 1-shotted Razorscale (25m) and downed XT too.

Razor dropped on of the sexiest waists and now use it over the Rasuvious belt.

[Belt of the Fallen Wyrm]

Belt of the Fallen Wyrm

Added an eternal belt buckle and a Runed Scarlet and I am gtg.

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Old 04/17/09, 8:15 AM   #3542
Vinha
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Stormreaver (EU)
Thank you for great comments.

New 13/58/0 - I've decided to put this build under heavy test.

I spent 3 points in Test of Faith, because after reading your comments, it really pays off in many ways. Because of this, I could leave Desperate Prayer away from the build - renew or CoH would cover that if I'm gonna die.

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Old 04/17/09, 8:42 AM   #3543
Istaril
Piston Honda
 
Undead Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
You answered your own question.

surprised 'cos I only gained +11 ap, +20 armor, some more crits
You're gaining 39 crit rating (AP = 60.06)
You're gaining 27 Agility worth of crit.

You're just underestimating the value of crit to your dps, that's all. Nothing looks drastically wrong comparing those items.

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Old 04/17/09, 8:55 AM   #3544
Dartheuxxa
 
Human Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Hey guys, this is my first post here also.

I see quite a lot of ppl still faithfully supporting the 0/41/30 build, which has proven to be consistant with good dps output. I wanted to try something a little different.

I came up with the idea of going for the following build:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...4&version=9767

The reasons I thought of giving this build a go were the following:

First: we are in the stage of get-to-know the raid instances and for that massive dps is required to make up for a likely 2-3 dps's exchanged for healers in 25-man raids (few extra healers to try and prevent multiple wipes). On this build, I chose to bring out our little daemon friend once again to increase HP do a some dmg as well (not as much as FG but with other advantages) and also, provide an raid buff.

One of the talents which I think is a <must> for either Demo or Dest builds is 300% increase from spellstones acquired byt the Master Conjuror, which directly increases your crit chance rate by an additional 5%.

Another very interesting reason I chose to go like so, was the use of Decimation which in a specific boss encounter as soon as we got his health down to 35% I managed to get 1 SoulFire for every 2 SB's cast, without losing a shard on the process and almost guaranteeing a critical hit. With only 1 point in MC, with the haste provided by spellstones, cast of SB's and SF's etc., you will get MC triggered very frequently.

On the Dest tree, I chose the usual ones to reduce cast time and improved shadow bolt for additional damage combined with Ruin (they must go together for better DPS).

Demonic Power will also ensure that your little friend is doing a good amount of damage and by enabling that, you also get Backdraft which will increase your gmd and the chance of getting crits besides giving you another instant cast of either SB or Incinerate, so in total, with Shadow Trance, Decimate and Backdraft, you have massive dmg going out effortlessly and all that without even proccing any trinkets you may have.

Improved Immo + Emberstorm completes to make your DOT's consistant and conflagrate to give your rotation a very nice Crit boost.

GLYPHS:

for this build I chose to not go too creative, keep it simple with the usual Immo + Corr glyphs and add the Glyph of Life Tap which will grant you a nice spellpower increase.

Try it out and tell me what you think.


Darth

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Old 04/17/09, 9:02 AM   #3545
BronaLord420
 
Undead Warlock
 
Daggerspine
maybe a dumb question

okay, so maybe im asking a pointless question, but with siphon life no longer being an actual spell, do we just replace it with SB while waiting for dots to time out, so we don't clip? or what would anyone suggest. assuming the target isn't at 25% or below health.

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Old 04/17/09, 9:13 AM   #3546
TeleToko
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
From the OP:

Things this thread should not be used for
Don't post your unfounded untested spec.

Basically you're posting a very bad variety on the 0/40/31 spec, a simple thing like taking out 3 points out of backdraft and putting them into demonic tactics alone would give you 3% extra crit and your pet 6%. Then you're missing the conflag glyph and have no aftermath, core things for any conflag build. It's not gonna work.

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Old 04/17/09, 9:41 AM   #3547
Tomon
Banned
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Hakkar
So what do we do now...

Since the 3.1.0 Patch I am trying to figure out what the heck I am supposed to do to respec in such a way to minimize the 10% penalty to damage for dual wielding 2H weapons. It seems like my strength is a lot more since the patch and my AP is great. Just looking for advice. I am currently spec 18/53/0 My current spec is as follows:

Fury Arms

Armored to the teeth 3 Improved Heroic Strike 3
booming voice 2 Deflection 4
cruelty 5 Iron Will 3
commanding presence 5 Impale 2
Dual Wield Spec 5 Deep Wounds 3
Precision 3 Two Handed Weap Spec 3
Death Wish 1
Improved Intercept 2
Improved Berserker Rage 1
Flurry 5
Blood Thirst 1
Intensify Rage 3
Improved WW 2
Improved Berserker Stance 5
Blood Surge 3
Rampage 1
Unending Fury 5
Titan grip 1

After looking at a couple of specs I noticed some choose to use the Improved Cleave. Is this the way to go or not? Thanks all. I appreciate the help.

I am also struggling with my rotation. Specifically i am being told that I should be doing tonnes more DPS than I am right now. My overall DPS in the last instance I ran was about 2101. I have mostly Epic gear now (from Heroics not Naxx). My AP is about 4500 buffed, crit is over 35% I think and str is like 1189. If I am doing it right.. what type of DPS should I be doing. Currently my rotation is as follows:

BR, Intercept, BS (if buffs from other party members are not better otherwise CS), DW, WW, BT (Slam if it procs) and then spamming HS until cd is up for BT or WW again. I occasionally throw in Heroic Throw, and VR if they are available. I have also heard that Demoralizing shout should be used but have not found this has been much help. I should also mention that when my other enrage effects are available I pop those as well.

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Old 04/17/09, 9:55 AM   #3548
kddude
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Destromath
Also note that the agility you gain will scale directly with buffs (via. kings), while it may only look like a few more AP /crit when you're not buffed.

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Old 04/17/09, 10:01 AM   #3549
Natasmai
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Druid
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by Dartheuxxa View Post
Hey guys, this is my first post here also.

I see quite a lot of ppl still faithfully supporting the 0/41/30 build, which has proven to be consistant with good dps output. I wanted to try something a little different.

I came up with the idea of going for the following build:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warl...4&version=9767

The reasons I thought of giving this build a go were the following:

First: we are in the stage of get-to-know the raid instances and for that massive dps is required to make up for a likely 2-3 dps's exchanged for healers in 25-man raids (few extra healers to try and prevent multiple wipes). On this build, I chose to bring out our little daemon friend once again to increase HP do a some dmg as well (not as much as FG but with other advantages) and also, provide an raid buff.

One of the talents which I think is a <must> for either Demo or Dest builds is 300% increase from spellstones acquired byt the Master Conjuror, which directly increases your crit chance rate by an additional 5%.

Another very interesting reason I chose to go like so, was the use of Decimation which in a specific boss encounter as soon as we got his health down to 35% I managed to get 1 SoulFire for every 2 SB's cast, without losing a shard on the process and almost guaranteeing a critical hit. With only 1 point in MC, with the haste provided by spellstones, cast of SB's and SF's etc., you will get MC triggered very frequently.

On the Dest tree, I chose the usual ones to reduce cast time and improved shadow bolt for additional damage combined with Ruin (they must go together for better DPS).

Demonic Power will also ensure that your little friend is doing a good amount of damage and by enabling that, you also get Backdraft which will increase your gmd and the chance of getting crits besides giving you another instant cast of either SB or Incinerate, so in total, with Shadow Trance, Decimate and Backdraft, you have massive dmg going out effortlessly and all that without even proccing any trinkets you may have.

Improved Immo + Emberstorm completes to make your DOT's consistant and conflagrate to give your rotation a very nice Crit boost.

GLYPHS:

for this build I chose to not go too creative, keep it simple with the usual Immo + Corr glyphs and add the Glyph of Life Tap which will grant you a nice spellpower increase.

Try it out and tell me what you think.


Darth

W
T
F
?

Seriously, improved shadowbolt + emberstorm is BRILLIANT. I am so angry that I didnt think of that one.

Please remove that guys post.... And then remove this one too.

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Old 04/17/09, 10:09 AM   #3550
BW~Merlin
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Jubei'Thos
I was thinking about taking this build but was wondering was it worth dropping 1 or 2 points in imp wf totem and fully specing elemental fury and picking up elemental focus?

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Old 04/17/09, 12:01 PM   #3551
DARKDRAGON
Banned
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Duskwood
Which one of these would be good for Tanking?

Blood Talent tree:

Blood (56 points)

2/2 Butchery
5/5 Blade Barrier
5/5 Bladed Armor
2/2 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization
1/1 Rune Tap
5/5 Dark Conviction
3/3 Improved Rune Tap
3/3 Vendetta
3/3 Bloody Strikes
3/3 Veteran of the Third War
1/1 Mark of Blood
3/3 Bloody Vengeance
3/3 Bloodworms
2/2 Improved Blood Presence
2/2 Improved Death Strike
3/3 Sudden Doom
1/1 Vampiric Blood
1/1 Heart Strike
3/3 Might of Mograine
5/5 Blood Gorged

Frost (5 points)

5/5 Toughness

Unholy (10 points)

2/2 Vicious Strikes
3/3 Virulence
2/2 Epidemic
3/3 Morbidity

Glyphs:


Death Strike

Blood Tap

Blood Strike

Horn of Winter

Death and Decay

Death's Embrace

Death Knight (56/5/10)Points left: 0Required level: 80

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Old 04/17/09, 12:02 PM   #3552
DARKDRAGON
Banned
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Duskwood
Frost Talent tree:

Blood (12 points)

5/5 Blade Barrier
5/5 Bladed Armor
2/2 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization

Frost (51 points)

3/3 Improved Icy Touch
5/5 Toughness
5/5 Black Ice
5/5 Icy Talons
5/5 Killing Machine
2/2 Endless Winter
3/3 Glacier Rot
1/1 Improved Icy Talons
2/2 Merciless Combat
3/3 Rime
3/3 Chilblains
1/1 Hungering Cold
2/2 Improved Frost Presence
1/1 Unbreakable Armor
1/1 Frost Strike
3/3 Guile of Gorefiend
5/5 Tundra Stalker
1/1 Howling Blast

Unholy (8 points)

2/2 Vicious Strikes
3/3 Virulence
3/3 Morbidity

Glyphs:


Frost Strike

Blood Tap

Hungering Cold

Horn of Winter

Howling Blast

Death's Embrace
Death Knight (12/51/8)Points left: 0Required level: 80

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Old 04/17/09, 12:02 PM   #3553
DARKDRAGON
Banned
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Duskwood
Unholy Talent tree:

Blood (15 points)

3/3 Subversion
5/5 Blade Barrier
5/5 Bladed Armor
2/2 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization

Frost (5 points)

5/5 Toughness

Unholy (51 points)

2/2 Vicious Strikes
3/3 Virulence
2/2 Epidemic
3/3 Morbidity
1/3 Ravenous Dead
3/3 Outbreak
1/1 Corpse Explosion
2/2 On a Pale Horse
3/3 Blood-Caked Blade
2/2 Night of the Dead
1/1 Unholy Blight
5/5 Impurity
2/2 Dirge
3/3 Reaping
1/1 Master of Ghouls
2/2 Improved Unholy Presence
1/1 Ghoul Frenzy
3/3 Crypt Fever
1/1 Bone Shield
3/3 Ebon Plaguebringer
1/1 Scourge Strike
5/5 Rage of Rivendare
1/1 Summon Gargoyle

Glyphs:


Bone Shield

Raise Dead

Disease

Horn of Winter

Death and Decay

Death's Embrace
Death Knight (15/5/51)Points left: 0Required level: 80

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Old 04/17/09, 12:03 PM   #3554
DARKDRAGON
Banned
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Duskwood
Any Help with those would be helpfull

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Old 04/17/09, 12:42 PM   #3555
woodab
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Mage
 
Azgalor
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
Mod Edit:

Caveats/assumptions:
* Demo specs with Decimation use 1xFiller-1xSF weaving - in other words, the sim assumes you can always stay at a distance from the boss that makes this possible.
Forgive the stupid question, but can someone elaborate on "weaving"? I'm a bit lost...

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