Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 242

dialect · 07/08/09, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Frchorknabe

I have a short question: I noticed that the current best MM spec lists the Serpent Sting Glyph. If I understand shot priority right, it means that CS is cast every time its CD is up, i.e. every 10 seconds, refreshing Serpent Sting which has a duration of 15 seconds. So there's a 5 seconds tolerance window - is it really necessary to increase it to 11 seconds? Since this, imho, is the only effect the Glyph has. Putting something else into it, e.g. Hawk or CS (even though I am not sure if this does not sabotage the Sting-Effect of CS) looks more appealing to me.

Opinions?

The whole point of the SrS glyph is to increase the secondary effect of CS.

EDIT: girthbot beat me to it!

Varuk · 07/08/09, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sepher

nice guide

btw the algalon 10man trinket gives 2 stacks per heal if beacon is up. just a sidenote

That is insane. I envy you so much now.

funnehman · 07/08/09, 6:40 PM

I kind of feel like a scrub but I feel like I'm doing something wrong right now, lately I've been getting raped(i haven't done much arena lately, mostly bgs) pretty hard and won't be able to really take anyone out alone. Usually, my attack sequence goes something like (seal of blood) judge of light on my way up to them, CS, DS, maybe consecration if there's lots of people, and by then the enemies usually lost barely any health, then if all my shit's on CD I just wait and do it again. Also, should I be judging pretty much every time it's off CD?

Maybe I just misjudged how playing a pvp ret pally really is after getting raped by quite a few on my hunter.

armory link: The World of Warcraft Armory

Sepher · 07/08/09, 6:47 PM

no need to be sarcastic, i guess its nice to know, because there was a discussion between a shaman and a paladin where the shaman said the trinket isn't as good for a pala as it is for a shaman because the paladin cant stack it up fast enough.

(sorry if it wasnt meant that way)

powersofpain · 07/08/09, 6:58 PM

Hey everyone, I just recently dropped enchanting to take up JC, long overdue I know.

Naturally I'm working on getting tokens to get the patterns I want but I've since picked up the +27 STR and EXP gems. I thought I had gemmed myself acurately to maximize stats while keeping EXP capped, etc. but I've had a couple of people tell me I've got gems in the wrong spots, and I just am not seeing it. Let me know if I've done something wrong since I'm just not seeing the error of my gemming. Thanks
Any advice on what I could swap around would be greatly appreciated.

here's my armory info... I linked it becuz the one showing to the left under my name is not correct, I just haven't updated this particular login to point to the new toon as the person below this post pointed out.

The World of Warcraft Armory

[sean.awesome] · 07/08/09, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by powersofpain

Hey everyone, I just recently dropped enchanting to take up JC, long overdue I know.

Naturally I'm working on getting tokens to get the patterns I want but I've since picked up the +27 STR and EXP gems. I thought I had gemmed myself acurately to maximize stats while keeping EXP capped, etc. but I've had a couple of people tell me I've got gems in the wrong spots, and I just am not seeing it. Let me know if I've done something wrong since I'm just not seeing the error of my gemming. Thanks
Any advice on what I could swap around would be greatly appreciated.

here's my armory info... it's still showing some +8STR and +12Stam gems in like my MH and rings, hopefully it updates by the time people check my armory since I've made a coupel of changes.

The World of Warcraft Armory

There's no need to link your armory we have one right under your name. Secondly, use the spreadsheet.

Buffbuffpass · 07/08/09, 7:23 PM

Do you guys think thist trinket will still be BiS for Paladins come 3.2?

powersofpain · 07/08/09, 7:29 PM

Thats not my correct toon anymore, hence why I linked the correct one, this is an old logon and I didn't feel like going and updating it, etc.

Thanks for being zero help, as I stated, I've done what I thought was correct and was simply looking for feedback... I use Landsoul's spreadsheet, etc. Just wanted an opinion or two...

chentox · 07/08/09, 7:32 PM

So, reading almost all of this!!! is still Seal of Command a pvp seal? and other question! Why erase Seal of Blood!!!? i think blizzard just nerf the pallies!

Can some one tell to every one i quiete help about wich glyph and caps now should be the hardest for dps pve?

Thank you all and f..k blizz for nerf us!

[sean.awesome] · 07/08/09, 7:34 PM

Originally Posted by powersofpain

Thats not my correct toon anymore, hence why I linked the correct one, this is an old logon and I didn't feel like going and updating it, etc.

Thanks for being zero help, as I stated, I've done what I thought was correct and was simply looking for feedback... I use Landsoul's spreadsheet, etc. Just wanted an opinion or two...

Your gemming seems fine but you may also want to refer to the spreadsheet. Are you seeing bad numbers from your dps? If so it may not be a gem problem.

Jackinthegreen · 07/08/09, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by chentox

So, reading almost all of this!!! is still Seal of Command a pvp seal? and other question! Why erase Seal of Blood!!!? i think blizzard just nerf the pallies!

Can some one tell to every one i quiete help about wich glyph and caps now should be the hardest for dps pve?

Thank you all and f..k blizz for nerf us!

If you had done your research, you would have seen that Blizz doesn't like the idea of Seal of Blood anymore, mostly because of its high burst damage coupled with the backlash to health.

They are also buffing Seal of Vengeance/Corruption in an effort to lower our Burst DPS, but raise our general fight DPS. The same idea is true for Crusader Strike where they lower its damage but have us using it more. It's not a nerf so much as trying to balance us better.

Varuk · 07/08/09, 8:20 PM

It wasn't sarcasm. I seriously envy you -- that trinket is already monstrous, the fact that the clicky effect is double as good as expected makes it even better.

Tarasbulba · 07/08/09, 9:39 PM

Hi all

Have read this thread for a while and most recently took interest in people's comments on Mernakleez and others posts.

My specs are at : The World of Warcraft Armory

I suffer from the same fate of not seeming to be able to match other fury dps in guild, even though I think I have similar gear and spec.

Any suggestions on where I am missing with my gemming or specs in general. Yes I am tryin gto get some better trinkets, but am main spec tank but called on to do dps and can't seem to crack 4k in Uld 25 runs.

I follow the same ww/bt/gcd approach as many have posted so just want to check if maybe any thoughts on whether I can swap spme str gems for ArP gems, noting that I am a JC so can add any of the dragon eye gems!

Please note for some reason armory has put in helm as my tanking helm even though I have Iron War Hem equipped!

Thanks
Taras

Rikky · 07/08/09, 11:03 PM

Yeah cause the fight is really bothersome with the dest build

DalWill · 07/08/09, 11:22 PM

For me 3/53/15 seems to be giving best results:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10072

Blood Presence

Rotation:
IT, PS, OB, BS, BS , FS, FS
OB, OB, FS, OB, FS...FS/Rime

Glyphs: Icy Touch, Obliterate and Frost strike
Sigil: Awareness

rivereye · 07/08/09, 11:35 PM

I don't know if this has been discussed, but on fights where we can't use Shred, what would be the best Idol to use, the Mangle or Rip Idol?

Murna · 07/08/09, 11:39 PM

From "Cat DPS Guide for Dummies"

Originally Posted by Murna

Which idol should I wear?
If you have to mangle yourself, [Idol of the Corruptor] is BiS for you. If not, then it depends on your ArP. If you are below approx 250 ArP, [Idol of Worship] would be your choice, above that the [Idol of the Ravenous Beast] becomes better. But actually the Rip and Shred idol both grant very similar DPS - the difference is really low.

Mangle if you have to mangle. Rip or shred otherwise...
Since you have to mangle, when you can't shred - Mangle Idol will win.

Fieryeel · 07/08/09, 11:41 PM

Just a point I have to re-confirm with moonkins.

ATM unbuffed in moonkin form, I am looking at something like 21% crit, and up to 440 haste.

I have gotten conflicting views from other druids in my realm, some telling me that after 400 haste, crit becomes more valuable, others telling me that haste is still more important than crit even after I hit my soft haste cap.

What are your opinions?

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:39 AM

I run a Resto Druid, Arms Warrior, and Enhance. We do decent against PMRs (really just depends on who makes the first mistake) we just seem to have alot of problems with Ret/Rogue and anything with a Dest Lock or a Hunter. Highest we got was to 1970, and we are currently trying to get back to 1900...

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:41 AM

Is it worth it to go resto to get to 2050 so I can get the shoulders for enhance?

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:46 AM

This might have been posted at one point, but with the somewhat recent changes to ArP, is it worth it? being that roughly 60% of Enhance Shaman DPS is Melee, and if it isnt worth it, then is it best to just stay as far away from it as possible and just get Crit/Haste/AP items?

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:47 AM

hopefully 3.2 will clear up the ArP drama

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:50 AM

With Feral Spirits and Shamanistic Rage, you should have no problems keeping yourself up

Tiny^ · 07/09/09, 12:53 AM

currently the fastest way iv found to making money as a LW is to make 32slot mining bags. it takes about 5-10min to grind the mats and they sell for about 50-60G on the AH. and atm they selling like hot cakes

get the leather from the mammoths in storm peaks collect the meat and if u have cooking you can make even more gold

Bloodgrip · 07/09/09, 12:53 AM

This fight is more intense then Yogg for enhance shamans