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Old 04/24/09, 7:40 PM   #3721
Nixx
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Hey. Just a few thoughts really. Currently we roll with a perma Frost DK in raid with imp Icy Talons and constant Horn of Winter. In this case i have decided to go with this spec:

The World of Warcraft Armory

Dropping Enhancing totems (due to horn of winter) and also dropping imp wf (due to imp Icy Talons).

I figured that i would drop the wf glyph and go with LS as aoe dmg in Ulduar would obv re bound onto bosses via this.

Basically am i doing the right thing in glyphing LS instead of WF?
Am i right to believe that WF and SoE totems DO NOT stack with imp Icy Talons and Horn of Winter?

Your thoughts would be great.

Thanks
/Nixx (Hatrix)

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Old 04/24/09, 7:56 PM   #3722
Tîberius
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Vek'nilash
Originally Posted by TrevvyTrev View Post
That's what makes it a "not so simple" question. Whether Armor Penetration is good enough to trade for depends entirely on what you're trading. As a general (but not ironclad) rule, it's better than haste is for hunters, but whether it's better than crit or hit or AP or AGI depends on many other factors, not the least of which is what your other stats already are. It's not even as simple as it's worth it for one spec and not for another. The closest you can say is that BM gets the most out of it (because more of their shot damage is physical) and survival probably gets the least out of it.

This is one of those "plug it into the spreadsheet" questions, unfortunately.
Haha. thanks when i get home i'll look at it in the spreadsheet and see what happens
thanks again for the help

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Old 04/24/09, 7:56 PM   #3723
Tîberius
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Vek'nilash
Lol so yea its impossible i guess... lol

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Old 04/24/09, 10:15 PM   #3724
FaLLeNaNg3L
 
Undead Rogue
 
Alexstrasza (EU)
Hey.
Since I use an ingame Addon called "pawn" to compare items and looking out for items that are best for me on "www.lootrank.com", I need to know the AEP-Scalings for the Holy Priest.
I read the thread and I am aware that spirit, int, spellpower, crit and haste with the postet Numbers are a good goal to reach. But i'd prefer some raw Numbers. I only have the 3.0 Scalings:
  • Int: 1.55
  • Spirit: 2.23
  • Haste: 1.26
  • Crit: 0.85
  • Spellpower: 1
  • Mp5: 2.85
Hope someone can help me to get these stats up to date with the 3.1 live for Holy Priest.

Thanks for your Help.
FaLLeNaNg3L

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Old 04/25/09, 12:21 AM   #3725
Orixanan
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Terokkar
Hello there everyone, Orixanan of Terokkar here. I've been lurking the forums for a bit and Ive taken hte liberty of finally signing up.

So Ive read a lot about Arms and ArP vs STR, and so far from what Ive read, ArP is superior to STR in large amounts, but in lower numbers STR is better. Is this correct?

As 3.1 hit I specced back into Arms and swapped out all my STR gems in favour of ArP. I also kept my Jawbone and specced into Maces. However, Im noticing that my DPS still dropped from pre-3.1. I used to be at the top of the charts, now Im averaging 3rd/4th with my guild and like 10th when I PuG. Is this due to my ArP numbers still being too low, my gear rating or is it just because the rogues/hunters/mages who top me got more powerful?

I have my Nobles Deck and Im waiting to turn it in at the next faire for Greatness, and Grim Toll hasnt dropped any of the 6 times Ive been in 25 naxx, so...hopefully next week.

Any advice or pointers? I feel like im missing something....

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Old 04/25/09, 1:56 AM   #3726
Manhossing
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Shadowmoon
Hello this is a bit off topic but i was wondering if there is a compiled best in slot unholy list. I know t7>t8 at this point but i'm wondering what is are the best peices to sub out. Also now with Ulduar what are our bis trinkets so far?

Thanks

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Old 04/25/09, 3:07 AM   #3727
Mega Man 306
Glass Joe
 
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Human Warrior
 
Anvilmar
I <3 Windfury sooooo much =D

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Old 04/25/09, 3:37 AM   #3728
Foxx2405
Don Flamenco
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Moonglade (EU)
Originally Posted by Manhossing View Post
Hello this is a bit off topic but i was wondering if there is a compiled best in slot unholy list. I know t7>t8 at this point but i'm wondering what is are the best peices to sub out. Also now with Ulduar what are our bis trinkets so far?

Thanks
There is a BiS topic on the front page, it has a Tier 8 section for unholy that seems pretty accurate.

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Old 04/25/09, 3:57 AM   #3729
gilgalidd
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Night Elf Druid
 
Quel'dorei
hit and haste...

hey all thank you for all the insites ..... ill get right to it i switched my main not that long ago to elemental .. and i just started running 2v2s with a rogue , who understandes how topeal of a shaman i do have 2 questions .. first what should my haste be ? .. second is realy a problem im having desiding to replace my valur pants .. i realy dont wanna lose the hit off it and if i gem for it .. im a jc.. ill lose at least 32sp .. anyone have a sugestion ? or is that extra resis not worth all that ? im at almost 590 resis ...i can move higher while we move in the ranks ... what can i do? And with the new changes to warriors I'm having problems with their charge and their immunity while ww, any suggested stratagies against them ? Sorry about my bad spelling ..

Last edited by gilgalidd : 04/25/09 at 12:41 PM.

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Old 04/25/09, 5:06 AM   #3730
aftielol
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Crushridge
Making the transition from arena to Ulduar, spell pen necessary for 13/51/7? I've been playing the spec for a week and have been noticing pretty significant partial resists on Frost Strikes.

REPEAT!

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Old 04/25/09, 6:20 AM   #3731
zav.jerk
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Blackmoore (EU)
Swordspecc

Hi there,

as most of you, I respecced into Arms with 3.1 hitting the live realms.
I did some test-switching between mace-specc and poleaxe-specc but up to now I lack a comparable sword for sword-specc.
Did anyone test sword-specc out and can me give a comparison from Sword<->Mace<->Poleaxe ?

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Old 04/25/09, 7:29 AM   #3732
avenraedy
 
Troll Death Knight
 
Thrall
Duel wielding dk tank's ftw

hey man ive got a frost dk tank named addr on thrall, duel wielding a broken promise and red sword (blah blah), ive noticed that most dk's usually use a 2h weap. for tanking which is all well and good but i want to promote the usage of dw for 2 main reasons. First, there is no such thing as a defensive 2hdr so even with your gargoyle chant your still missing out on tons of defensive rating, therefore being able to gem and chant your gear with things other than defensive stats huge bonus no?, also your giving yourself two whole extra equipment slots that will stack not only def rating but hit and parry as well something else you loose out on if you use a 2h, survivability through aviodance and damage mit are crucial for every tank espically with the new content that just arrived and in order for us dk to survive in an uludar world we must conform Secondly ive noticed that even though dnd and rs are great for "burst" threat, your tps is much more consistent and I usually top out other dk's (and even a few pally's) on tps, and really I dont know if the parry glyb is a myth or not i dont care I still rs every 5 sec pretty much on the dot.
Rotations:
single target mob
it ps hb bs bs (rs if you haven't parried by then i mean common) hb ob ob runic burn fs rs

multiple target mobs
dnd it ps pes tab hb bs tab ob ob hb (2seconds of downtime 1sec between pes and hb 1 between bs and ob1 usually filled with rs or fs)

Finally, frost is the shiznit for surviving the fights and keeping great agro imo, no you wont ever to dmg like a unholi but now that moonkin aura and ep dont stack your really not helping your party out. And blood is nice to with all the healing you can do to yourself but I ask myself if doing maybe 2-500 hps going to help me out at ALL for some of these uludar fights? When things are blasting me in the face for 7k a sec dots? no. In the end everyone should play the hell out of however they want to play, just thought id maybe throw a new idea your way. Link to my build is The World of Warcraft Armory hit me up to call me an asshole newb dunderhead or gimme a thumbs up idk just want to share
-Peace

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Old 04/25/09, 7:34 AM   #3733
Fauh
Von Kaiser
 
Pandaren Monk
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Originally Posted by Kazanski52 View Post
Yes, if you stand in the right spot you can hit both the body and the arm with heart strike. You'll hit two targets instead of one thus increasing your dps. Others were talking about how, since you're standing in front of him, he'll parry your attacks and can skew your dps data.

The thing is though, one specific spec may not be best on every boss. If you're down for it, have your dual specs be two different PvE specs that could be better in the different situations.
Having two diffrent pve-specs might seem like an easy and good choice however in terms of gearing the diffrent specs prefer diffrent stats. So then it comes down to either gearing or two specs. This might be an option but I think it's too much hassle for the benefit. This will force you into gearing for a certain spec thus making that your "mainspec" and to decide which of your two specs to make your mainspec you'll have to go here and ask which makes the best dps.

Thus we have this discussion.

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Old 04/25/09, 8:50 AM   #3734
windstrife
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Ragnaros (EU)
Originally Posted by Daisil View Post
The proc is what makes it legendary. It should go to your best and most devoted healers first.

Work around the stats. Regem your gear slightly to make up for the mp5/spirit loss. The legendary is still the BiS for resto druids, and I feel the proc might even benifit us slightly more on a larger scale if it procs off of every tick(therefore making it multiple little shields)
Well, i really hope this turns out to be true, seeing as my guild chose me to recieve it, due to me being the most dedicated of us... I already got my first fragment

V_V im a little upset at the legendary tbh, i thought blizzard would have used their "brains" and balanced it for all healers. I mean the mace isnt that great for even shamans etc.

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Old 04/25/09, 8:57 AM   #3735
EExx
Banned
 
Worgen Mage
 
Ner'zhul
is it me or is rawr sometimes way off? its saying items with crit which are 100% for sure not better than what i have... are more dps for arcane. maybe im not using it correctly at all?

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