I have never seen a chain of promises that ALL became lies as i did with this. They dont want us to use macros, but according to shot rotation it will be more beneficial too, the pet families do not bring equal DPS and utility pets bring nothing to raids, we are worse off in PvP, camo has been scrapped twice, our mana regen ability sucks, MS not affecting auto shots is a huge dps loss not to mention making the already worthless stat on our gear yet even more worthless, we are no longer the only threat redirecting class, other classes can take our abilities but we cant take theirs, the set bonus on our gear sucks, all of our scaling abilities are gone, mainly Master Marksman, which was nerfed to shit to give a non scaling stat and...what do ya know, more haste, blizzard does not listen to what we have to say nor do they understand what state the hunter class is in, they refuse to answer any questions while they give point by point breakdowns to all other classes at the drop of a hat, and all the while feeding us a steady stream of nerfs.
Honestly, why dont you go ahead and preset our DPS to 0.
If their goal was to make this class more fun, you failed miserably, we are worthless. Oh, but thank god we got Freezing arrow, a trap CD triggering shot with the standard 2 sec arm time! yays!....

Im done with your game

Subscription Terminated

TBC all over again. quit while your ahead.

Oh well.. guess it's back to chasing fucking boomerangs until WotLK.

I'm just curious, anyone have any estimate how much 5% crit balances against the 10% ap (previously) of Master Marksman?

Hey careful now. I received an infraction fopr bumping this post as it was 6 months old, even though I bumped the post by the author of an addon that did what I was looking for.

Thanks!

in my opinion this is the best pve damage build at this time
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...00000000000000
Its exactly the same as found in the roguesheet ^^

Here's the armory link:

The World of Warcraft Armory

Here's my question - Should I eventually lose riposte? If so, (and either way) can you suggest some point placements
to make this build better? I know I'm not 70, but there's nothing wrong with being prepared. This toon will be mainly used for farming mats for my 70 Holy Paladin, but would like to raid with him someday.

Suggestions/constructive criticism are welcome.

Thanks for you time!

I'm having difficulty following all the different PVE DPS cycles that are being suggested. With all the recent changes to the talent trees and some people talking about the beta versus PTR, could someone post the "suggested" arms and fury specs for level 70 and then level 80.

thank you

So what would you guys say to be the best combat leveling spec for Wrath (assuming current talent trees)? I’m also finding a similar problem in which there are simply too many good DPS talents to pass up for utility leveling talents. Would you guys recommend going max dps, or sacrificing some damage for talents such as deflection and endurance?

I originally put forward a summarized list of trade skills and their benefits, here is a link to a more solid review of what each "currently" has to offer The WotLK profession thread

From a pure AP perspective we are looking at Alchemy/Leatherworking which also work out to be very high in the spell power department as a combination as well. From early looks the only time Alchemy falls off for consideration is for tanking classes. It gets very tight between Leatherworking and Blacksmithing for overall improvement. However combining LW/BS has overlap in bracers.

Does anyone know where the Offering of Sacrifice drops? I looked around but there doesn't seem to be any mention of it. I ask because I just recently got my druid to 70 and would like to try to gear up for tanking in WOTLK, and I didn't know if it was worth trying to farm for the badge if the Offering of Sacrifice is going to be an easy drop at 80. My tanking set currently includes the 2 +45 Stam trinkets from brewfest.

shiv not supposed to be a dps skill, how about we suggest change Shiv to Main hand skill and SS to off hand skill instead?

That's terrible. I was seriously expecting it to get at least a second pass...

edit because I was wrong.

Thanks Tyds.

Having an Arena point cost on everything kind of slows down the honor gear for sure. Though I had planned to drop out of the arena system entirely and limit my participation in the game to Battle grounds and 5-man dungeons in Wrath. I guess there is no point in even bothering with the expansion now then.....ah well there is always Warhammer.

Thank you!

umah hits the nail on the head

Hmm I hadn't considered the threat benefits from light in that fashion.

Tell me it isn't true

So blizzard basically made elemental shamn the non-scaling poorest ranged dps class in the game for both pve and pvp? Hope they fix that asap.