Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 257

KryT1caL · 04/28/09, 6:36 PM

Does anybody have a link to BiS items for SV hunters?!

Binkenstein · 04/28/09, 7:05 PM

Because I hadn't updated the spec since WoWHead changed their talent system, retard.

SaradominGodofWisdom · 04/28/09, 7:10 PM

I just got into MM today and I'm not really familiar with it. I've been searching and poking around forums and i cant seem to find a solid shot rotation. So basically whats a good MM shot rotation look like?

Ashenmoor · 04/28/09, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by SaradominGodofWisdom

I just got into MM today and I'm not really familiar with it. I've been searching and poking around forums and i cant seem to find a solid shot rotation. So basically whats a good MM shot rotation look like?

I have strayed away from "rotaions" for some time now and use shot priority, much like survival. very few encounters in ulduar allow for stand and shoot dps.

KS->SrS*->CS->AS->ArS->SS->SiS*

SrS* only needed once

SiS* off global cd, doesnt interupt or clip any other shots

Starwind · 04/28/09, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by KryT1caL

Does anybody have a link to BiS items for SV hunters?!

Download the spreadsheet and check out the Gear Planner tab.

Sisepeda · 04/28/09, 8:30 PM

lol?
Just noticing what you've missed.
Why the insult?

svirre · 04/28/09, 8:50 PM

Thanks Methyl_Druius

Very nice posting a Close to BiS list using earthshaper + the fact of not having to do 10 mans. This list suits my needs atleast.

Iru · 04/28/09, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by KryT1caL

Does anybody have a link to BiS items for SV hunters?!

What? You mean this whole thread called Best possible dps in shandaras wotlk spreadsheet escaped your notice?

shed · 04/28/09, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bryne

It's the exact same debuff. It even applies IIT.

Ya, apparently it doesnt apply a debuff to the turrets on Leviathan (then again, i'm not even sure Howling Blast hits the turrets at all now that I think about it).

Binkenstein · 04/28/09, 11:15 PM

Saying I've missed updating something isn't the same as saying "lol ur rong"

Attitude · 04/29/09, 1:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kyruski

I have currently switched to 0/13/58 and do quite enjoy it. Priority is as follows. Diseases(BP>FF)>SS>BS>UB>DC. The glyphs I use are SS Glyph, DC Glyph, Ghoul Glyph.

EDIT: You also might want to switch the build on the OP for 0/13/58 to This. I know you might want to keep IUP in the build but I did quite a bit of Simming and found that it was always a dps increase to not include it and just drop a boot enchant for the speed one. Think about it. 32AP/12Hit+12Crit or 2 Talent points. GF is actually a DPS drop in this build since you try to keep diseases up and if you drop 1 SS, you usually get a GF+IT. Now what happens if the BP drops off but not FF. Then you have to waste another UF for PS+ most likely IT.

Also, [Vulmir, the Northern Tempest] is a best mainhand and for the offhand, [Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers] is the best, but don't expect to get the OH for a while...

long time reader... 1st post... i'm currently using 0/13/58... BP... MH/OH SLOW/FAST CG/FC... SS, DC, Ghoul Glyph... the only difference with my build and ur build is that i took out 2 points in necrosis and filled it in morbidity... Kyruski have u tried the difference in dps? necrosis only procs on main hand since 3.1... and i think giving 2 more points in morbidity which gives 10% more dmg on DC which will boost dmg single target... faster cooldown on DnD for AOE dmg will boost up dps in overall and also boss fights... i haven't tried the difference but it's just my theory of a better 0/13/58 build
single target rotation - IT-PS-BS-BS-SS-dump DC
aoe rotation - IT-PS-Pest-DnD-UB
wanna hear ur thoughts about it

Kyruski · 04/29/09, 1:53 AM

Originally Posted by Attitude

long time reader... 1st post... i'm currently using 0/13/58... BP... MH/OH SLOW/FAST CG/FC... SS, DC, Ghoul Glyph... the only difference with my build and ur build is that i took out 2 points in necrosis and filled it in morbidity... Kyruski have u tried the difference in dps? necrosis only procs on main hand since 3.1... and i think giving 2 more points in morbidity which gives 10% more dmg on DC which will boost dmg single target... faster cooldown on DnD for AOE dmg will boost up dps in overall and also boss fights... i haven't tried the difference but it's just my theory of a better 0/13/58 build
single target rotation - IT-PS-BS-BS-SS-dump DC
aoe rotation - IT-PS-Pest-DnD-UB
wanna hear ur thoughts about it

Necrosis isn't Main hand only, It's both Off and Main. Take a look at your Combat log sometime. Also Morbidity is one of the lowest DPS per point talents in this build.

Lokii · 04/29/09, 2:24 AM

I have been using the UA spec for a while now so i can give a bit of information to what i think are the pro's to this spec

1. Massive dmg ... 25 man raid buffed i am pulling well over 3k dps consistantly, you actually feel like more then just a meat shield

2. Easy ... bind ur heroic strike to revenge and its a 1 button spam spec pretty much for massive dmg and threat ... i would challenge any dps class to go as hard as they want they will never ever pull threat off you

3. Massive threat ... seen my tps dip into the 11k threat area on patchwerk ... and any other time seems to sit between 7-10k dependant on revenge crits

4. Avoidence .... because this spec relys on avoidence (dodge, block, parry) to keep that revenge spamable ... stack it all u want and never run out of rage and avoid those big hits ... most of the time i go into unlimited rage situations

both my duel specs are prot specs ... i have the deep prot spec for trash with block focused gear and the UA spec for boss's with avoidence focused gear so my dps can go as hard as they want and have no fear they will pull off the tank

avoidence stacking is great ... to keep those revenges almost garenteed and avoidence hight ... just cycle ur trinkets and shield block, ill let you know mine

for the first hit shield block is up, then when the 20 secs is gone of that i hit Valor Medal of the First War (use ability is 335 dodge for 20 secs) then as soon as thats off cd , shield block again, when the 2o secs is off that i hit Rune of repulsion ( use ability increases parry by 375 for 20 secs) then when the 20 secs is up back to shield block again ... now that a hell of alot of time with massive avoidence streaks making that revenge all the better

and just keep cyling that rotatation for low incomming dmg and high threat and as trinkets and shield block dont share anything with glob cd's u can keep spamming revenge bound with heroic strike the entire time

now tell me this isnt win freaking win baby

Attitude · 04/29/09, 2:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kyruski

Necrosis isn't Main hand only, It's both Off and Main. Take a look at your Combat log sometime. Also Morbidity is one of the lowest DPS per point talents in this build.

if necrosis hits both off off and main hand... i checked ur armory btw.... why use 2x fast weapon? no more killing machine procs like previous patch (3.0.9)... wouldn't necrosis do more dmg going 2x slow weapon then? i wanna know what the purpose of 2x fast? even FC procs the same with slow weapon

Kyruski · 04/29/09, 2:34 AM

Originally Posted by Attitude

if necrosis hits both off off and main hand... i checked ur armory btw.... why use 2x fast weapon? no more killing machine procs like previous patch (3.0.9)... wouldn't necrosis do more dmg going 2x slow weapon then? i wanna know what the purpose of 2x fast? even FC procs the same with slow weapon

First of all, I don't have KM procs so it doesn't matter. KM is also PPM so Fast isn't better than Slow nor vice versa for KM. Now in response to necrosis for fast vs slow. Necrosis is a flat 20% of your damage. If you hit 10 times in 20 seconds for 20k total, you'll do a flat 4k with necrosis. Same if you hit 20 times in 20 seconds for 20k total. As for me with Fast Fast, Why I go Fast Fast is because my highest DPS Slow weapon is a 156.6dps Slow. Compare that to the 178.7dps Fast I have and there is a clear winner.