Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 274

dazzel123 · 05/06/09, 11:51 AM

this is the slap in the face i have needed hehe, so what about the gems? shall i get the soft expertise cap? or go all out str? being a jc makes getting the expertise cap easier so it might be more viable? also is it worth taking out the point from bone shield and putting it into black ice?

Damphair · 05/06/09, 1:06 PM

I'm having some troubles using v31d and I hope one of you can help. I checked the last 3 pages of this thread and didn't see this question addressed. If this is the wrong place for it, please point me to the right place. Thanks.

First, in the Gear_Buffs tab, I didn't see any buff from Divine Spirit in the raid buff section. (This is easy enough to fix and I just added a row for it.)

Second, in my Gear_Buffs tab, the total +dmg returns the error of "#Name." When I checked the formula, I see that that G132 is causing some problems:

=IF(AND(glyph_lifetap,_xlfn.IFERROR(lifetap_freq,0)),0.2*spirit*20/_xlfn.IFERROR(lifetap_freq,0),0)

Seems to me that it's trying to establish the lifetap_freq, but as far as I can tell, that data is on the DPS worksheet and I don't see any reference, like "DPS!J2" or something similar. I'm also not clear on what IFERROR does. Is that just corrupted code? I can't find IFERROR as a function?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Tremonti · 05/06/09, 1:12 PM

I am assuming this will now replace Daschal's Bite as the BiS MH for Mutilate rogues. A shame too since I just picked up a Daschal's last night. Anyways looks like we will have to start working on Iron Council Hard mode now =P

Reuben · 05/06/09, 1:31 PM

Not to jump on any bandwagon, but i too chose 1 out of Empowered Imp, due to the high crit lvls we already see in raid setting.

Mexican Devil · 05/06/09, 3:37 PM

Just a question real quik, I am currently using Calamity's Grasp/Webbed Death. I got Kinetic Ripper the other night. Could this be a good replacement for Webbed Death?

rescoto · 05/06/09, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mexican Devil

Just a question real quik, I am currently using Calamity's Grasp/Webbed Death. I got Kinetic Ripper the other night. Could this be a good replacement for Webbed Death?

You should check with a spreadsheet that has your specific gear/glyphs/enchants modeled. I think with BiS T7 25-man level gear, WD would still outperform Kinetic Ripper for a 15/51/5 Combat CQC build.

Krainski · 05/06/09, 4:02 PM

Hi,
Unfortunately I have not been able to read the last 20 pages of posts but I just wanted to know if there was a general consensus on whether or not using chain lightning in a rotation was beneficial or not for single-target dps (as well as if you should use it if there are only 2 targets, rather than 3). I know that haste has a great deal to do with whether to use CL or just LB. I believe you need 500 haste to fit 5 LBs in between a LvB cooldown, correct? Here is my armory if that would help you guys help with recommending CL or not. The World of Warcraft Armory

Thank You!

Damntastic · 05/06/09, 4:22 PM

Anyone having same problem on Kologarn, melee swings not hitting the arms?

Binkenstein · 05/06/09, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by Zarnu

I think that the calculations for glyphs need to be looked at again. I spent the last 2 hours studying the difference in DPS between the Wrath and Lava Totems. I know the recommendation on EJ says to use the wrath glyph but when doing a comparision test for DPS it droped by 6.5% when I use the wrath over the Lava totem.

Test Method: Keep everything the same, test 10-12 times using the same primary rotation on test dummy. Measure DPS. Then do the same with the other glyph. Wrath was substancially lower.

Just my thoughts....

Zarnu

Then you can follow instructions and post it in the shaman forums as you were asked to.

plance53 · 05/06/09, 5:06 PM

i need help on the best dps unholy spec for talent poins should i go 0/10/61 or 14/o/57 and what glyphs and rotations do i need for the best dps

callans · 05/06/09, 5:22 PM

Hey a question with about the enw glyphs, Right now I´m running Steady shot/ hawk and Serpent sting glyphs. But since we got the new Kill shot glyph I´d like to switch to that one. Does anyone got any suggestion to witch one I should take away for the best DPS gain? I was thinking Aspect of the hawk glyph to be removed. Thanks guys

Cankuna · 05/06/09, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by plance53

i need help on the best dps unholy spec for talent poins should i go 0/10/61 or 14/o/57 and what glyphs and rotations do i need for the best dps

The answers are all in the first post on the first page. 12/0/59 and 0/10/61 are both good and a lot of "best dps" comes from your personal play style. Rotations and glyphs are found in the first post too.

plance53 · 05/06/09, 5:33 PM

ty u very much srry im new to this

Dagormatix · 05/06/09, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by Krainski

Hi,
Unfortunately I have not been able to read the last 20 pages of posts but I just wanted to know if there was a general consensus on whether or not using chain lightning in a rotation was beneficial or not for single-target dps (as well as if you should use it if there are only 2 targets, rather than 3). I know that haste has a great deal to do with whether to use CL or just LB. I believe you need 500 haste to fit 5 LBs in between a LvB cooldown, correct? Here is my armory if that would help you guys help with recommending CL or not. The World of Warcraft Armory

Thank You!

See the post above yours for a good model of CL Vs LB in a single target situation *before* you have 4pc T8 set bonus.

Once you get the 4pc set bonus I am not certain on single target, but it must be pretty close, probably dependent on if you need to tighten the rotation to minimize time spent with LavaB off CD.

With more than a single target CL will always be more damage than LB. Bear in mind that without the 4pc bonus, CL having a higher average damage, will scale better with buffs that increase damage by a flat % (such as rune of power, deconstructors heart, hodir with crit damage buff etc.. etc..) which further favors using CL in your rotation.

Do use common sense though. My personal rule of thumb is that if I drop below 6k mana I take CL out of my rotation on single targets if the fight is going to last longer than 30 seconds.

fontaine:3 · 05/06/09, 6:23 PM

I'm just starting to really care about making gold, and I'm wondering what kind of ways there are that I can use to increase my funds.

I don't have much to start off with (~500), and that is the major issue, as most of the ideas that are in this thread are for people with much higher capital.

And also, what profs are profitable right now? I have skinning and herbalism, and I'm not sure what I should drop/what to do with them.

Any help would be great! Thanks

:3

edit: I'm also only lvl 68, so that may change things...