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Old 05/14/09, 2:44 PM   #4291
Uglywombat
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Warlock
 
Altar of Storms
Ah thank you, i guess I was looking at the older version.
That aside, surely the dagger off of Algalon is better than Runescribed...or is it that it's so unobtainable that it isn't put there?

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Old 05/14/09, 2:59 PM   #4292
Kivshani
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Vashj (EU)
The 15% haste is, and always was, Auto Shot haste only. It doesn't effect spells.

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Old 05/14/09, 3:05 PM   #4293
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
No WoW Account
i been following these fourms for a while now and i need to ask for some advise, I cant seem to get my dps higher than 3k. i have hit 4k a few times but i have to say its mostly 3k, if some one could take a look at my spec, gear and gems and tell me where im messed up at i would appreciate it very much.

here is a link to the armory

The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 05/14/09, 3:13 PM   #4294
Lerastes
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by Kivshani View Post
The 15% haste is, and always was, Auto Shot haste only. It doesn't effect spells.
This is absolutely NOT true. Take off all your gear except your ranged weapon, respec if you're BM, and your Steady Shot cast time (NOT the tooltip, the tooltip does not reflect haste changes) will be about 1.7.

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Old 05/14/09, 3:19 PM   #4295
Miriana
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Doomhammer
At what point should you start gemming for Arp

Here is my Armory The World of Warcraft Armory

If you dont feel like clicking on it here are my stats. In cat gear
Agi-1167
Ap (in cat form) - 6818
Hit - 319 (yes i know im over the cap... kinda well over it, but its the hit that comes on my gear im not gemmed for it..at all)

Ty for your advice and input
(BTW sorry if this is the wrong forum to post this in)

-Miri

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Old 05/14/09, 3:42 PM   #4296
Beachwanderer
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by fred browm View Post
i been following these fourms for a while now and i need to ask for some advise, I cant seem to get my dps higher than 3k. i have hit 4k a few times but i have to say its mostly 3k, if some one could take a look at my spec, gear and gems and tell me where im messed up at i would appreciate it very much.

here is a link to the armory

The World of Warcraft Armory
While I would change your proffesions, which would also change your gemming very slightly, it would not significantly impact your dps from being that low. Your gear is fine, your spec is cookie cutter survival, so I can only imagine your priority rotation is bad, or your group isn't debuffing the mob or buffing you properly. Can you link a wws or similar report?

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Old 05/14/09, 3:49 PM   #4297
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
No WoW Account
the wws info is on this webpage


just click the wws link on the web page

The Grimm

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Old 05/14/09, 3:53 PM   #4298
Nitemare19
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by fred browm View Post
i been following these fourms for a while now and i need to ask for some advise, I cant seem to get my dps higher than 3k. i have hit 4k a few times but i have to say its mostly 3k, if some one could take a look at my spec, gear and gems and tell me where im messed up at i would appreciate it very much.

here is a link to the armory

The World of Warcraft Armory
Well on first glance I don't think gear is your issue. You have good gear, properly gemmed, you have the hit cap and the cookie cutter spec.

Now we moves onto the intangables.

1) Are your buffs all there when raiding?
2) Are you always flasked/blackend dragonfined?
3) (something I had never before considered till this post) How is your latency?
4) Do you use the proper rotation?
5) Do you clip your explosion shots?
6) Are you managing your debuffs? (BA, SrS etc)
7) What pet do you use?
8) Both your professions are gathering. If you have a crafting profession (or 2) you open up better enchants/gems on certain slots.
9) Party makeup also is important. Again as mentioned to me, sunders and other armor affecting debuffs help a lot.
10) Do you move around a lot, or generally stand still?

To relate, I generally do between 3600-4400. We have few warriors, I do not (as of yet) use haste potions. My latency is usually very bad (around 200 on average). And have a few slot issues (blue head piece losing 100+dps delta according to the spreadsheet).

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Old 05/14/09, 3:53 PM   #4299
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
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i also use the rotation KS,ES,BW,SpS, AS, SS, MS

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Old 05/14/09, 3:56 PM   #4300
alarge
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Night Elf Druid
 
Vek'nilash
Originally Posted by fred browm View Post
i also use the rotation KS,ES,BW,SpS, AS, SS, MS
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Do you mean rotation? Or priority? And what do "AS" and "MS" mean in this context? You shouldn't ever be using Arcane shot. And there is no reason to use Multi-Shot as a standard part of your priority system if you have Aimed Shot. And did you mean BA instead of BW?

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Old 05/14/09, 3:58 PM   #4301
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
No WoW Account
my latency is usually 150-250 depending on time of day, my pet is a wolf
I aleways use a flask of endless rage and blackened dragonfin, we usually get all the buffs in 25 man runs but the 10 man buffs are skimpy.. i also buff my pet with mammoth treats

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Old 05/14/09, 4:00 PM   #4302
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
No WoW Account
Originally Posted by alarge View Post
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Do you mean rotation? Or priority? And what do "AS" and "MS" mean in this context? You shouldn't ever be using Arcane shot. And there is no reason to use Multi-Shot as a standard part of your priority system if you have Aimed Shot. And did you mean BA instead of BW?
sorry for the confusion, my rotation is killshot, explosive shot, black arrow, serpent sting, and i fill in with aimed shot, steady shot and multi shot, which ever has their cooldown ready

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Old 05/14/09, 4:06 PM   #4303
fred browm
 
zagzil
Troll Hunter
 
No WoW Account
is this the wws your looking for?

hhttp://wowwebstats.com/wv3m3qwlbfwk...00000001dcebcc

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Old 05/14/09, 4:13 PM   #4304
Beachwanderer
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by fred browm View Post
You had an extra h in front of the link... fixed it for you. You only gave me 2 fights to go on, Heigan and Loatheb. THose are pretty bad reports to judge your dps by. Out of Naxx patchwork would be best. From the two fight you linked you did 4k and 5300 dps. This isn't what you described at all.

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Old 05/14/09, 4:14 PM   #4305
blaczero
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Haomarush
Originally Posted by fred browm View Post
my latency is usually 150-250 depending on time of day, my pet is a wolf
I aleways use a flask of endless rage and blackened dragonfin, we usually get all the buffs in 25 man runs but the qo man buffs are skimpy.. i also buff my pet with mammoth treats
From looking at your Loatheb fight, it looks like you are loose with your shot rotation/priority. Either from lag or from bad timing.

For example, Loatheb was 288 seconds long, and you only got off 41 explosive shots. For that duration with 0 LnL proc's you should have even more than that. (You were however, unlucky with LnL proc's, I see only 1 in 288 second fight.) I would also derive this considering your ExS was 31% of your damage and auto was 27%. The raito should be a lot larger, with ExS being more % of your damage.

Are you missing Black Arrow? I see 50 tick's of BA for the 288 seconds (I don't remember off the top of my head how many times it ticks, but this seems low for almost a 5m fight)

Buffs you have look good, debuffs on the mob look pretty good.

What mods do you use for shot priority / rotation? It seems you need to tighten it up a bit.

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