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Old 05/19/09, 2:39 PM   #4471
Miagorme
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Lightninghoof
Hi, I'm new to these forums so I apologize if this is in the wrong place, thread, or anything of that liking. Could a moderator please move it to the correct place if it is in fact in the wrong thread? Thanks.

I realized I wasn't the only Paladin on my server (in fact, Paladin's the most-rolled class) and got tired of being just like everyone else. I also noticed Death Knights always use two handed weapons. So, in an attempt to be different, I made a Death Knight and was really looking into dual wielding. However, after I did my homework (10 levels later) I realized it wouldn't really work out too well. So, I looked into other options and decided to try Shaman since I've never seen an enhancement shaman in a raid and I've rarely seen elemental. I've been leveling with just enough points in Enhancement for Shamanistic Focus while putting everything else in Elemental, and I'm probably going to go pure Enhancement at 30, but I definitely will go Enhancement at 40. My shaman will be 80 within 3-4 weeks.

Looking at the talents and spells available to learn, both Enhancement and Elemental seem like they'd be amazing for DPS. With the explanations out of the way, my (simple) questions are: is it worth it to take a melee-DPS position as Enhancement for the raid buffs (and personal DPS)? Which will do better with pre-raid gear? Which is more difficult to gear? Which has more potential as gear improves?

Thank you, and I apologize for the length of my post.

edit: Sorry, one more question. What distinguishes a good Elemental Shaman from a bad one? "" Enhancement?

Last edited by Miagorme : 05/19/09 at 3:29 PM.

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Old 05/19/09, 2:43 PM   #4472
nuibank
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by BrauChief View Post
Can someone tell me if I created a good pvp afflok spec here or if im a flipping moron? (im leveling on a pvp server still have the pts in life tap atm)
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

*dons the flame jacket*

**servers coming online 2:39 EST**
You're missing points in grim reach / Improved Fear / Improved Howl of Terror / Soul Link. Basically what you just posted was a VERY slightly modified pve spec.

Try something like this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

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Old 05/19/09, 3:46 PM   #4473
Aries932
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Orc Death Knight
 
Crushridge
Which would be a better OH Kinetic Ripper or Webbed Death?

i am 15/51/5 combat spec....and my MH is Calamity's Grasp.

I have Remorse, but i am still waiting for Malice to drop to go sword spec.

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Old 05/19/09, 4:07 PM   #4474
Valustria
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Aries932 View Post
Which would be a better OH Kinetic Ripper or Webbed Death?

i am 15/51/5 combat spec....and my MH is Calamity's Grasp.

I have Remorse, but i am still waiting for Malice to drop to go sword spec.
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-p...updated_3_1_a/
First post; did you read it?

Alternatively, "check a spreadsheet."

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Old 05/19/09, 4:17 PM   #4475
Aries932
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Orc Death Knight
 
Crushridge
Originally Posted by Auturgist View Post
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t37183-p...updated_3_1_a/
First post; did you read it?

Alternatively, "check a spreadsheet."

I did check a spreadsheet, and one gives me very close figures. The other does not work...personally i like second opinions. It was a simple question...in a thread that said simple questions, simple answers.

I guess i was just looking for a more in depth answer.

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Old 05/19/09, 4:26 PM   #4476
tymoney321
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Orc Rogue
 
Dark Iron
Originally Posted by Aries932 View Post
I did check a spreadsheet, and one gives me very close figures. The other does not work...personally i like second opinions. It was a simple question...in a thread that said simple questions, simple answers.

I guess i was just looking for a more in depth answer.
But that question is all but simple. They are so close so the answer will be dependant on your gear, gems, raid buffs etc. You will have to use the spreadsheet to determine the answer. It isn't as simple as comparing Webbed Death to Bladetwister, in which case you will get an obvious simple answer. This is why you will almost always be recommended to seek a spreadsheet for gear questions.

Anyway if you want an inaccurate answer, the pocket guide ranks Webbed Death over Kinetic Ripper for a best in slot T7 rogue. For my gear, Kinetic Ripper appears to be better.

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Old 05/19/09, 4:28 PM   #4477
Zaythi
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Draenei Shaman
 
Cenarion Circle
[Illustration of the Dragon Soul] & [Eye of the Broodmother] are two of the best trinkets in the game. You would be much better off using those two items over other options, until the time comes to obtain/use a [Flare of the Heavens].

I am not 100% exactly what all you are asking, but I think it was just which of the two you should use. If you wanted to know which one to drop if/when you do pick up a Flare, it would be the Eye. Flare and Illustration are the best two in the game as a combination for Elemental, to our knowledge at the moment.

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Old 05/19/09, 6:05 PM   #4478
Maltuss
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Draenor
well what would be most efficent heal to use

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Old 05/19/09, 6:20 PM   #4479
gonemad
 
Tauren Druid
 
Area 52
Which proffession combination is best?

From what i understand, Endless flask of rage is better than the ArP elixir.

What about buff food? I would assume Hearty Rhino?

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Old 05/19/09, 6:51 PM   #4480
aliengrey
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aliengrey
Undead Death Knight
 
Non-US/EU Server
Does anyone know the name of the addon that the warlock from Vodka uses that shows your spellpower/crit/hit in this bar on the bottom of his ui? Here's a link to one of his Ulduar kills Vodka Vs. Assembly of Iron Hard Mode By Supplicium

He links his UI here UI can be found at Supp UI : WoWInterface Downloads : Minimalistic Compilations
and I still can't figure out which one it is.

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Old 05/19/09, 6:55 PM   #4481
Arkell
 
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Detheroc
Has anyone figured out if it's now worth it to replace t7.5 4 piece with the nerf?

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Old 05/19/09, 7:11 PM   #4482
Husnan
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Orc Death Knight
 
Suramar (EU)
Originally Posted by Arkell View Post
Has anyone figured out if it's now worth it to replace t7.5 4 piece with the nerf?
It is if you have 4 pieces T8, otherwise, it's not

(This info is all over the BiS thread by the way)

Edit : i'm referring to the Unholy spec, but i'm pretty sure that it's the same for blood and frost

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Old 05/19/09, 7:53 PM   #4483
Gurrshael
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Tauren Druid
 
Drak'thul (EU)
Originally Posted by gonemad View Post
Which proffession combination is best?

From what i understand, Endless flask of rage is better than the ArP elixir.

What about buff food? I would assume Hearty Rhino?
JWC, the second profession is generaly up to you as most of them provides comparable bonuses. I am happy with JWC / Alchemy (Elixir master).

As for the food - yes, +ArP food is the best you can get provided you already have a good amount of ArP. If you don't, use +Agi food instead.

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Old 05/19/09, 11:16 PM   #4484
Yoblad
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Undead Warlock
 
Ysera
Heroic training dummy. This is what I'm getting post 3.1.2 0/13/58 for comparison. two applications of CoD and a CoA at the end while I let everything tick off. I had to LT a few times to dps for ~2.5mins


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Old 05/20/09, 12:23 AM   #4485
Gleancrawler
 
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Jubei'Thos
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