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Old 09/11/09, 9:38 PM   #7926
Ramadrid
 
Troll Shaman
 
Warsong
Earthshock

With the new tier9 2 pices bonus and glyphs, my flames shock time is 27 seconds, to get more dps im thinking in put the earthshok on the rotation.

FS/LV/LBx5 with ES when is up.

what u guys think about it?

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Old 09/11/09, 9:51 PM   #7927
aurora0809
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Antonidas
aoe

ranged aoe: living bomb > flame strike (full rank) > flame strike (rank 8) > blizzard


is this still the best ranged AoE formula?

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Old 09/12/09, 12:00 AM   #7928
Horseeater
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Laughing Skull
So Would I be wrong to socket all sockets with ArP untill capped with trinket?......

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Old 09/12/09, 5:07 AM   #7929
quaninter
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Antonidas
Just a quick question, what is the Arp soft cap right now with 5 stacks of sunder?

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Old 09/12/09, 6:23 AM   #7930
Maliradojica
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Executus (EU)
Ok ok so when patch came and int got nerfed. I thought ok, maybe it's time to go for more sp + mp5 and b00st up usage of FoL. I think i even posted here about it and people replied in manners of Int is the stuff. Ok so i checked most top guilds paladins and so i decided to listen to the majority and go for int as well. I regemmed my gear to int and today i wake up watch stars movie of ToC etc. And i decided to take a look at their paladins just for the heck of it. I always compare my self to others. So while i was doing that i decided to take a look at the rest. I found out that nearly half of them went all out on sp + mp5. Using Deadly librams and FoL as i planed to at the start. (Not all of them have 4t9). So on one hand we have Sp + mp5 with pvp librams going for FoL and on other Int + holy light + Naxx libram. Any1 care to elaborate this? I thought that some went for Sp + mp5 for Anub'arak HM to minimize over healing in 3rd phase but still...

Any thoughts on this. I personally didn't do too much theory crafting last month or so cause i've been way to busy. Didn't have time to run proper tests either. But if somebody did please share your results. I probably wouldn't have posted this if i had more confidence. Zaroua i know you post here as well i would like your personal opinion regarding this if you have time, cause i know you did the same thing.

Thank you

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Old 09/12/09, 6:33 AM   #7931
Ballistae
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warrior
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by quaninter View Post
Just a quick question, what is the Arp soft cap right now with 5 stacks of sunder?
The same as it is with 0 stacks. 100% ArP value is really only about 80% or so ArP, effectively. Sundering and likewise target debuffs work on the last 20%.

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Old 09/12/09, 8:50 AM   #7932
Kayci
 
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Burning Legion
Mage in need fo advice

Hello, I am a mage on Burning Legion, name is Greenti.
I don't really know where this belongs so I understand if it gets moved or deleted I apologize ahead of time.
I am currently having difficulties maximizing my dps in 10 man's (As in 2k-3k, when others pull 4k-5k), I have ok gear, I have my rotation down, studying every thing I could in that respect. I use the right flasks(Frost wyrm) and food(fire cracker salmon) along with speed potions. I seem to have have cap'ed my hit, crit isn't too low and neither is sp.
I would really appreciate if someone with a little time could take a look maybe throw me a few pointers on what they see or what they do to achieve good dps all around.
Greenti

Oh and I may have pvp gear on sometimes, I will try to keep it to pve to let you see it =)

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Old 09/12/09, 10:14 AM   #7933
vif
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Eitrigg (EU)
the cycle for mutilate

hello, i'm from belgium and i not speak very well english(french is my first langage) so excuse the errors

the stuff for my rogue is in the armory link in my profil(i did read the post-it!)

on a boss like patchwerk, koralon, gormok... i'm at 5K3-6K dps
maybee it's a bit low with my gear, so it's because of my cycle who is maybee not correct
so here is my cycle
i engage with garrote, (1cp) i go for hfb, i use s'n'd, i go for 1 or 2 mutilate for rupture with 4 or 5 cp and then i refresh asap snd with a envenom, and i refresh rupture, hfb and snd continuelly!

So can you help me to have a better cycle?

Last edited by vif : 09/12/09 at 12:28 PM.

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Old 09/12/09, 11:51 AM   #7934
Sehjiro
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Tanaris
Ok so it falls to me to turn here for some help. I know I don't have the best gear in the world, but it's at least half decent. My gear score is just over 2500 atm and yet I feel like I'm lacking in the dps area. in 25 man raids I usually only manage to pull 4.5k dps which to me is just sad. There has to be something I'm doing wrong. If you guys could take a look at my gear and talents etc... and give me any pointers, I would really appreciate it. Character name is same as user here. Sehjiro on Tanaris realm.

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Old 09/12/09, 1:35 PM   #7935
Nerio
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Bleeding Hollow
Your main hand should be faster, you shouldn't gem stam, and you're not using the JC gems as a nearly maxed out JC. There are a plethora of things that could be lowering your dps that we can't know from just an armory, such as whether or not you're receiving all the necessary raid buffs or if you aren't doing what you should be doing.

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Old 09/12/09, 3:59 PM   #7936
trash monkey
 
Undead Priest
 
Icecrown
thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for all the Macro info. It's been a huge help

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Old 09/12/09, 4:09 PM   #7937
trash monkey
 
Undead Priest
 
Icecrown
Good information here. Thanks!

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Old 09/12/09, 4:25 PM   #7938
FAGabriel
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Gilneas (EU)
Hi everybody,

i have 4 weapons for dw
[Blackhorn Bludgeon]
[Malice]
[Aledar's Battlestar]
[Razorscale Talon]

which weapon should i use in MH and OH?
I think in MH [Blackhorn Bludgeon] with FC and in Offhand?
Or is [Malice] better in MH, cause it has 2.5 Speed?

I hope you can help me, and can explain it a little

Thank you very much

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Old 09/12/09, 4:27 PM   #7939
elpolloloco
Banned
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Norgannon
i need help with my stats..i do not why, but my friend has a lower GS and the same spec as me..but somehow he always does 800+ more dps than me..idk if my stats are garbage or what? heres my armory if any1 can help
The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 09/12/09, 4:36 PM   #7940
Badget
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Tichondrius
The World of Warcraft Armory

[Footpads of Silence]

vs

[Battlelord's Plate Boots]

Which?

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Old 09/12/09, 5:24 PM   #7941
Sehjiro
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Tanaris
yeah, I know about the JC gems I should be using, however I just got my JC that high as of yesterday so I don't have the necessary tokens to buy the designs for them just yet. I also know that the 24 stam gem on my leg piece makes no sense heh, I did that back when I was just looking for a blue gem to make it possible to have my meta on head, and I'll have to change that. As for main hand being faster, shouldn't it be slower? I saw that BiS for muti was Twin Spike which is 1.8 speed, and my Golem Shard Sticker is only 1.5. I follow what I figure is a standard muti rotation (open from stealth w/ Garrote > HfB > SnD > Muti > Envenom > Muti > Muti > Rup > Muti > Envenom) with some small tolerance depending on whether or not the extra CP procs and keep up Rupture, SnD, and HfB pretty much all the time while using envenom in between, but I still seem to be losing out on dps somewhere, and it's eluding me as to where.

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Old 09/12/09, 5:46 PM   #7942
Lyssa
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
You might want to enchant all your gear and gem it properly and then come and ask for help if you still have issues with your DPS.

(Psst.. that relic is for tanking.)

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Old 09/12/09, 5:55 PM   #7943
Macevaland
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Skywall
Originally Posted by hazed1 View Post
I don't have much i245 gear. Should i not be gemming for ArP gems after the 3.2.2 patch? currently at 523 ArP passive + grim.
I'm in the same situation as you. Testing in RAWR showed me that I should gem agility in 3.2.2 until getting to 650 ArP. Once I can reach that number then gem ArP until getting 735 ArP rating + the trinket.

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Old 09/12/09, 6:57 PM   #7944
Malazarr
Banned
 
Troll Rogue
 
Deathwing
Mutilate > Combat next patch what're your thoughts ald? Do you consider DPS the main factor of an encounter? Or do you think damage done to the boss is what matters? Sure you can Blade Flurry and hit more mobs... But... Does that really mean anything? When the boss needs to die.

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Old 09/12/09, 7:00 PM   #7945
Eltorronado
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Kael'thas
I know this question is ussually frowned upon. But my guild has cleared both Uld and TOC. I normally range around the midrange of dps on the meters. Just wondering if more experienced Unholy DK's could look at me toon, and comment an approximate dps range I should be doing? Just wondering if it's my game play or my gear which is leaving me lagging behind? Also, are there key factors to look at when reviewing recount reports. Such as disease up times, etc....
Thank you for your help, and thanks Consider for a nice OP page.

The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 09/12/09, 8:27 PM   #7946
h2so4
Glass Joe
 
h2so4's Avatar
 
Troll Shaman
 
Alexstrasza (EU)
i know it's a bit off topic from the haste discussion

but did anybody seriously challenged the new set boni?
i only have one item yet, but the boni sound quite crappy if you ask me.

any info welcome!

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Old 09/12/09, 8:29 PM   #7947
MMQ
Glass Joe
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Mug'thol
your best bet is to download the sim and put your stats in there...should give you an idea of where you should be.

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Old 09/12/09, 8:42 PM   #7948
Prikky
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Aszune (EU)
1. Look here: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t55505-o...ng_bis_thread/ read the OP there.
2. Use Zerack's DK Gear Optimizer

To give some general things to look into: check your gems, enchant on wrist, trinkets, 2pT8 bonus, etc.

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Old 09/13/09, 1:05 AM   #7949
Burglekutt
Glass Joe
 
Undead Priest
 
Black Dragonflight
I love all the "I feel"s and "I think"s about haste extended across multiple paragraphs to make it look like something important is being said. Where's the moderation around here? Wtb some solid math.

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Old 09/13/09, 1:54 AM   #7950
elpolloloco
Banned
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Norgannon
Originally Posted by Lyssa View Post
You might want to enchant all your gear and gem it properly and then come and ask for help if you still have issues with your DPS.

(Psst.. that relic is for tanking.)
if i dont have all those hit gems, im at 180 hit rating so i cant re-gem

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