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Old 06/01/09, 9:46 AM   #4801
Bereadytodie
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Any suggestions on what addon to use to keep track of the 4 t8 proc? Preferably something easy to setup and use because I'm awfully bad with addons.

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Old 06/01/09, 9:58 AM   #4802
Taizu
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Gnome Death Knight
 
Arthas
Originally Posted by garrus View Post
For the AOE build (Freya) my idea is something like this:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Use DND, diseases and UB up, than death strikes -> blood boils, switch to scourge strikes on single target.
You are sacrificing a lot of DPS just by tailoring your build like that. In addition, ditching IUP is something I can never do as deep unholy.
0/10/61 is probably still the best AoE build there is. Black Ice really amps up your DnD/UB/BB which are your major AoE spells.

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Old 06/01/09, 10:10 AM   #4803
Arbitur
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Gnome Mage
 
Daggerspine
If you had actually read the thread, you would have picked up a number of suggestions.

I prefer Power Auras.

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Old 06/01/09, 11:23 AM   #4804
Kyuki
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Gnome Mage
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Cheers for some nice responses

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Old 06/01/09, 1:21 PM   #4805
arekugureman
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Balnazzar
if you meant to engage freya with the 3 elders up, don't drop precision, because they are bosses. The adds that freya summons, are not bosses you are right on that.

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Old 06/01/09, 2:16 PM   #4806
Rhinoamerican
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Madoran
Originally Posted by Stel View Post
I'm not sure you can do this with eventhorizon, but for timer needs I've been using PowerAuras. It's a little overkill for just timers, and kinda long to figure out how to set it up properly but once gone the initial headache it's great, and it can be of great use for a number of other shaman needs (not missing when your weapons buffs are down, knowing when you're not in range of your totems, knowing when you're soon out of charge on watershield when resto...) in HUD-like fashion, without having to go pick infos all around in your UI or to add more one-task addons.
Stel,

I would love to know how you set up PowerAuras for use with an elemental shaman. Everytime I think I've had it set up correctly I find out that that I don't! haha. I'd love to have it tell me when lava burst or flame shock is ready etc.

Thanks

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Old 06/01/09, 3:15 PM   #4807
arrogant jerk
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Human Rogue
 
Al'Akir (EU)
Possible Combact Build

Not sure if anyone mentioned this.
mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.

It appears that stacking ArPen with combact rogues gives much more return than with mut or hat, and this just boosted in 3.1 with the ArPen boost in general. Would it be worth it dropping few points from Assassination tree to Subtlety tree in order to get Serrated Blades?
The standard build is:standard
The build i am looking at is:ArPen

I am sure this has been discussed before, even following elitistjerks everyday i think i have missed it. is there anyone could copy/paste the debated results for me?

also heard rummers that stacking ArPen is better for Combact rogues expecially in 3.1, stacking ap/agi gem fall behind [Fractured Scarlet Ruby]. has any have any experience with this?

Edit: Line 2 Should have read 'Cally mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.'
Sorry Cally

Last edited by arrogant jerk : 06/01/09 at 3:23 PM. Reason: Spelling

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Old 06/01/09, 3:25 PM   #4808
Gith-Nor
 
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Human Paladin
 
Argent Dawn
I like to think that all raid encounters are play tested with at least one Retribution Paladin in attendance with a 99% JoL up time. I also joke around with all the Holy Paladins that I have their AoE raid healing. They hate that.

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Old 06/01/09, 3:35 PM   #4809
Mick
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Human Rogue
 
Emerald Dream
Originally Posted by arrogant jerk View Post
Not sure if anyone mentioned this.
mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.

It appears that stacking ArPen with combact rogues gives much more return than with mut or hat, and this just boosted in 3.1 with the ArPen boost in general. Would it be worth it dropping few points from Assassination tree to Subtlety tree in order to get Serrated Blades?
The standard build is:standard
The build i am looking at is:ArPen

I am sure this has been discussed before, even following elitistjerks everyday i think i have missed it. is there anyone could copy/paste the debated results for me?

also heard rummers that stacking ArPen is better for Combact rogues expecially in 3.1, stacking ap/agi gem fall behind [Fractured Scarlet Ruby]. has any have any experience with this?

Edit: Line 2 Should have read 'Cally mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.'
Sorry Cally
I'd recommend you check out post #1 on the WOTLK Rogue Gear Discussion thread. People smarter than you or I have determined a DPS gain of 21.7 DPS gemming ArPen over Agility, with a strong argument that the defensive stats provided from Agility would more than offset the minor DPS increase.

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Old 06/01/09, 4:03 PM   #4810
Netfelix
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Gnome Warlock
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by Zaleiria View Post
If the wording of the incinerate and F&B tooltips are accurate, we have:
- Incinerate gets bonus damage from anyone's immolate on the target. No talents needed.
- Incinerate and CB get (extra) bonus damage from your own immolate on the target. Requires F&B talent.

This seems to be supported by discussion in the Destruction Warlock thread.
Thank you

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Old 06/01/09, 4:57 PM   #4811
Joigahdenn
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Cenarius
Originally Posted by arrogant jerk View Post
Not sure if anyone mentioned this.
mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.

It appears that stacking ArPen with combact rogues gives much more return than with mut or hat, and this just boosted in 3.1 with the ArPen boost in general. Would it be worth it dropping few points from Assassination tree to Subtlety tree in order to get Serrated Blades?
The standard build is:standard
The build i am looking at is:ArPen

I am sure this has been discussed before, even following elitistjerks everyday i think i have missed it. is there anyone could copy/paste the debated results for me?

also heard rummers that stacking ArPen is better for Combact rogues expecially in 3.1, stacking ap/agi gem fall behind [Fractured Scarlet Ruby]. has any have any experience with this?

Edit: Line 2 Should have read 'Cally mentioned that ArPen 1.83 1.34 1.54 for combact, mut, and hat respectively.'
Sorry Cally

Really, the best thing to do would be to plug your spec and gemming suggestions into the spreadsheet and see what it says, as that is the tool used to answer such a question. It will ultimately depend on your gear, but as far as I know speccing into Serrated Blades as combat is a DPS loss.

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Old 06/01/09, 5:04 PM   #4812
Ihsahnx
 
Human Death Knight
 
Korialstrasz
Re:

Looking forward to this spreadsheet in a BIG way. Also wanted to thank you for your time/effort Darkside; and can't wait to use the new spreadsheet.

Cheers!

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Old 06/01/09, 5:55 PM   #4813
lewo
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Tauren Warrior
 
Scarshield Legion (EU)
good evening everyone, i'm new on the forums yet playing for a long time,
i have few questions about my new dk, she just hitted lvl 80 this morning and i have learned about a spec called 50/0/21 would you advice it for using
which rotations and glyps should i use? (i have death coil and death strike cant decide for the last one, may be unholy blight)
today i entered os 25 and i used 2 ds, then 4 hs, and between those when i hit 40 runic power unholy blight and while dpsing used death coil whenever i had 40 runic power.

my friend adviced this as you dont have to use diseases, disease free spec.
if i drop unholy blight and get dancing runic weapon, would it increase my dps (as i know it had been nerfed)

i know my gear is not very good as i hit 80 today, got 3 craftables and bought 60 valor emblem bracer from my warlock.

instead of going blood, should i try unholy?

thanks for reading and helping

ps:The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 06/01/09, 6:33 PM   #4814
Desta77
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Burning Legion (EU)
hi
i', sory but i didnt read the whole topic so if there was a question like this pleas by tolerant:]

do you have a problem with threat playing cat?
when im dpsin single target i always reagrro tank so i never can fell free with my dps

have you guys that problem to?

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Old 06/01/09, 6:54 PM   #4815
babibele
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Gnome Mage
 
Ner'zhul (EU)


This is my UI, let's hope you will enjoy it

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