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Old 06/02/09, 12:18 PM   #4831
Jarathag
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Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Thanks for the help. I am going to try it tonight. Hopefully I rock the meters.

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Old 06/02/09, 12:24 PM   #4832
evildeed
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Orc Death Knight
 
Area 52
I think this is one of the messiest forums i have Ever- seen. LOL how can anyone get much out of all of this symbolization, and math etc etc, def a blur to read thru and kind of annoying. what about people who just think ok i dont have alot of experience to test alot, i just need to kno what i should do for best results...i know what the acronyms mean, and i see there is on the site a spot that lets people kno what DS, SS, BS etc means.. I see alot of people that are being ignored, best thing i say is get what info u can about ur question and go test it urself. its not too direct of a thread, same stuff being said over an over and over.

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Old 06/02/09, 12:32 PM   #4833
Delysid
 
Батхет
Tauren Warrior
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Hello my rotation is:



Target-->Charge

1-1sec)Rend got 1st GCD
2-2sec)MS (5sec CD) got 2d GCD
3-3sec)Execute (when a have proc) or Slam got 3th GCD
i have 1st TfB proc
4-4sec)OP got 4th GCD
i have 1 sec CD on my MS
5-5sec)MS (5 sec CD) got 5th GCD
6-6sec)Execute (when have proc) or Slam got 6th GCD
i have a TfB proc
7-7sec)OP got 7th GCD
8-8sec)MS (5sec CD) got 8th GCD
9-9sec)Execute (when have proc) or Slam got 9GCD
i have a TfB proc
10-10)OP (last) got a 10GCD

then start a new cycle with rend.

all gems ApR

My questions are:
Have Slam a GCD?
Must i w8 for MS CD or use Execute when i have proc for it?
When i must use Slam? How many rage i must have for it?
How many GCD and seconds in 1 cycle?

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Old 06/02/09, 12:43 PM   #4834
Lehetetlen
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Bloodscalp (EU)
Strange spec

Greets!

After reading through the forums and messing a bit with the talents I came up with this 20/51/0 spec. I know the general consensus is that picking up combustion is a bad idea, however in my opinion it can compliment your performance when you would just simply casting your spells, outside of the bloodlust/heroism+potion of wild magic period.

However I dropped Burning Soul and I'm afraid that decision doomed the build.

Although it has a potential damage wise in theory, but in raid environment it might fail miserably. This is why I would like see your opinion about my insane talent distribution.


p.s: this is my first post and mildly confused which would be the appropiate thread for this post.

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Old 06/02/09, 1:00 PM   #4835
shutupnpitch
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Human Warlock
 
Misha
first post here

hello i have been reading alot and i am glad i found this forum. i am a lvl 80 affliction lock looking to learn on best way to imrove my charecter. i am still learning, a novice to most of you. i think i am going in the right direction but need to gear up right now. plz let me know what you think.

thank you shut

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Old 06/02/09, 1:18 PM   #4836
Waddy
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Human Death Knight
 
Moonrunner
That and you say you're using your rotation in blood presence, when it's been proven that unholy presence = 25% more km procs and it allows you to weave in fs's when you get a km mid rotation and a howling blast during a rime proc. This equates to more dps, if I've read the entire post correctly...

That and I believe with your gear it's been proven that for two disease PS - IT - OB - BS - BS / OB - PS - IT - IT - IT = more damage. That's why the majority of the posters are recommending only 3 points into unholy because you don't need the extra disease time to keep your 30% damage bonus for rp dumps at the end, and again reinforcing why you use unholy presence to fire off abilities quicker.

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Old 06/02/09, 1:22 PM   #4837
raidingmail
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Tauren Druid
 
Destromath
Well they fixed the 4x t8 bonus now but I have looked all over and cannot find a simple answer what Im trying to determine is a best in slot list now assuming 4 peice will be top dps which of the off peices to use robes of the umbral brute or collar of the wyrmhunter etc. Any advice would be appreciated.

Also I notice alot of boomkins in the wws thread carrying around 550+ haste and like 15% crit im wondering what is the ideal stats for a 25 man ulduar raiding moonkin.

I use a Lunar eclipse rotation and am looking to up some dps so any advice would be outstanding. Thank you for reading and taking time to respond I hope I'm not going off of subject to much.

Last edited by raidingmail : 06/02/09 at 1:43 PM.

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Old 06/02/09, 1:39 PM   #4838
Uglie
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Eredar
Since we lose virulence, how much +hit are we aiming for so that IT's aren't missing? Or does 1 GCD not really matter in the long run, should we just go for our normal stats.

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Old 06/02/09, 1:47 PM   #4839
Erekose
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Human Death Knight
 
Bleeding Hollow
If you are running ITx6 (or any Frost build, really) you want to be at the 17% raid spell cap, but 3% of that is going to be coming from Spriest/Boomkin. If you are Alliance and have a pocket Dranei you can afford to drop to 13% hit, horde 14%. Thankfully Ulduar gear has an incredible amount of hit on it and I hit raid spellcap with Misery without gemming/enchanting for it. If you have the option you can drop a little bit of expertise for hit as ITx6 is the least reliant on Expertise...though of course hit/expertise capped is preferable for a smoother rotation.

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Old 06/02/09, 2:44 PM   #4840
Taizu
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Gnome Death Knight
 
Arthas
read before you ask

Originally Posted by Uglie View Post
Since we lose virulence, how much +hit are we aiming for so that IT's aren't missing? Or does 1 GCD not really matter in the long run, should we just go for our normal stats.
If you ever bother scrolling up I've already done the math in post #258.
You need 78 hit rating to compensate for losing 3/3 virulence.

Last edited by Taizu : 06/02/09 at 2:45 PM. Reason: link

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Old 06/02/09, 2:52 PM   #4841
Arkatekt
 
Undead Warrior
 
Exodar
I don't use corruption or CoA because it seems to be a dps decrease. Instead I stick with Immolate as my only DoT on targets. And I push more dps because I am able to cast more incinerates.

I don't use a rotation, but rather a priority for dpsing.
Immolate, CB, Conflag, then Incinerate spam while keeping up Immolate, and use CB/Conflagon CD. I also keep up the Life Tap glyph buff so I get the 120+ SP.
And I mainly use CoD to not interrupt my casting.

With this method I have seen higher dps than with keeping up DoTs. But I would like to hear other people's opinion on this.

Last edited by Arkatekt : 06/02/09 at 3:23 PM.

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Old 06/02/09, 3:05 PM   #4842
blitx
 
Human Death Knight
 
Durotan
I just wanna make a comment on blood and AOE, I see your rotation and have tried it, I have also tried to do IT,PS,Pest,HS,BS. then DRW, at this time i pop into UH pres.(when available) then hit all HS's. its very fun, but its not up all the time, I have noticed using DRW with heart strikes is better, so I have been mixing it up a little to keep up with other AOE classes.

Just food for thought

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Old 06/02/09, 3:05 PM   #4843
Ikuta
 
Troll Shaman
 
Drak'thul
I know my DK's a little lower on gear, but I've been using that 44/0/27 build, and I really find that it's easy to push out and above 3k sometimes as high as 4k on fights, it does have quite a bit of AoE, so it makes Blood able to almost hang with Unholy or Frost.

I wish I WWS parshes, but I dont yet...

The World of Warcraft Armory

That's my DK, dont rib me too hard about not being Hit capped, I missed a couple pieces of gear, and I've got a ton more hit gear in my bags, that I didnt have equipped.

But that 44/0/27 spec is very nice. with my gear pumping out 3k dps, I'm impressed, but then again I could be retarded..

my Rotation I've been using is: Dnd, IT, PS, HS, HS, DS, UB, Dump, DS, HS, HS, HS, dump
Keeping my pet up at all times.

If there's any help you can give, I'd appreciate it, but just wanted to put my noobish 2 cents worth in.

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Old 06/02/09, 3:27 PM   #4844
Jonnyc
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Stonemaul
New Spreadsheet New Gear

When will you be updating the spreadsheet aldriana with the newer pieces of gear from many hardmodes. the trinket off 10 yogg and offhand from 10 general vezax are not listed. If you already have can u tell me where the link it. plz

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Old 06/02/09, 3:30 PM   #4845
Jonnyc
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Stonemaul
ah nm i see it has been updated thank u

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