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Old 09/16/09, 4:54 PM   #8101
Focal
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Boscolover View Post
As much as I enjoy looking through 50+ pages of posts. Could someone post a link to a FB spec plz.
Is it that hard to look at the first page? or perhaps the very first post? you'll find a link there.

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Old 09/16/09, 5:15 PM   #8102
neozz1
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Spirestone
What is currently the highest possible dps output, combat or mutilate? What will it be after 3.2.2?

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Old 09/16/09, 6:17 PM   #8103
SupriX
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
Dbl post, trying to delete it...

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Old 09/16/09, 6:23 PM   #8104
Naggert
Glass Joe
 
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Human Rogue
 
Hellfire (EU)
Darkmoon Card: Greatness

Hi guys... I've been pondering about [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
It cost about 5.000 gold on my server, but is it worth the money?

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Old 09/16/09, 6:26 PM   #8105
ManOfSorrow
Banned
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Staghelm
Originally Posted by Redknights View Post
Please read the very first page of this Thread, learn and understand it all before posting questions.

"White hits have a hit cap of 27%. The talent Nerves of cold steel reduces this by 3%. At this point, no white hits (or any attack for that matter) will miss. This cap is not reasonable to reach for any DK, and should not be attempted. However, keep in mind that gaining hit over the spell hit cap still has a dps value as it will allow more white damage, more blood caked blade procs, and more Killing machine procs." - First page
my main though is should i spend my badges on the sigil of virulence and save up for a trophy or buy the forth piece of tir9 to get the 4 set bonus. which is disease to crit. And Im not sure if that is really great, cause they dont say at what % the crit is for?

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Old 09/16/09, 8:01 PM   #8106
stedfunk
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Scilla
Quick question, I've searched around but found nothing conclusive. Is it worth replacing 4pc t8.5 with 4pc t9.245? From what I've gathered on this site you should wait until/if you get 4pc t9.258 for it to be worth it

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Old 09/16/09, 8:03 PM   #8107
Zulsokana
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Bonechewer
Originally Posted by alienangel View Post
The glyph isn't bugged, it's just ineffectual for MM because MM hunters appear to be passively receiving the benefit of the glyph without actually having the glyph inscribed - probably from putting points into Marked for Death.

So if you're MM, you can use some other glyph instead of Steady Shot until the bug is fixed.
They fixed that before 3.1 came out.

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Old 09/16/09, 8:34 PM   #8108
Mad_Murdock
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Malfurion
Originally Posted by StaxRexx View Post
As far as which is better... you shouldn't need a sheet to tell you.
Understood. Personally I like playing Fury better than Arms, though I've pretty much been Arms since the 3.1 nerf to Fury. I've been looking for the gearing level at which time I can go back to Fury and at lesat be equal to my Arms DPS. Right now, I just can't produce the DPS as Fury that I can has Arms, but I'm hardly best in slot either. I was hoping it wouldn't take BiS to get back to Fury. I'm guessing my 212dps weapons are becoming the bottle neck. It's unlikely, I'll get access to the Justicebringer anytime soon, probably the best I'll get a shot at is the 10 man regular Reckoning. So Arms may be my future a while longer

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Old 09/16/09, 8:53 PM   #8109
zhrgg
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Blackrock
My cycle is indeed switched to Evis-only, but with Deadly Poison in Offhand. That means I should go Mongoose x2 as well?

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Old 09/16/09, 8:57 PM   #8110
Mavanas
Great Tiger
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Lightning's Blade
Originally Posted by zhrgg View Post
My cycle is indeed switched to Evis-only, but with Deadly Poison in Offhand. That means I should go Mongoose x2 as well?
Why don't you change both of your weapon enchants to Mongoose instead of Berserking and check the resulting dps. If the dps number increases, you in fact should switch to Mongoose x 2.

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Old 09/16/09, 9:23 PM   #8111
Iru
Don Flamenco
 
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Draenei Hunter
 
Muradin
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Last edited by Iru : 09/16/09 at 9:24 PM. Reason: dup post

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Old 09/16/09, 10:09 PM   #8112
Savassan
Banned
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Agamaggan
Originally Posted by Vinen View Post
Savage Roar / Rip I'd think.

And, no... it's not worth getting Thick Hide for a cat.
figured, just had to check on the Hide thing. WoW forums had a few people saying to take it. So i figured I should ask

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Old 09/16/09, 10:42 PM   #8113
Chack
Piston Honda
 
Troll Rogue
 
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
The Heroic-10 Gloves are best in slot for almost every physical damage dealer (except maybe for the 258 T9 ones), the first one in our guild actually went to a retri paladin. I wish those items had class restrictions, it becomes really tiresome to compete with so many people over items especially since the dualwield DK change. Maybe slightly off topic :p

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Old 09/17/09, 12:39 AM   #8114
The Grog
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Dragonblight
Scooped!

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Old 09/17/09, 3:49 AM   #8115
Airdawg
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
Arms Warrior Tips

Want to increase your dps? Copy my gear/spec/rotation. I have 100% ArP without using a trinket proc. Overall dps for most raids is around 6.5k dps. Check out my char and tell me what you think. Airdawg on Alterac Mountains if you want to armory. The World of Warcraft Armory

Spec= 55/8/8. In arms tree spec put 1-2 points into Weapon Mastery if you are low on expertise. I like to stay around 15 expertise then put 1-2 points into Weapon Mastery. Dont waste the extra points in fury tree trying to reach improved execute... Put 8 points into the prot tree 8 for the improved heroic strike/cleave crit. The extra crit for heroic stike and cleave is nice!

Glyphs= Mortal Strike, Execute, Rend (I have played w/ bladestorm and heroic strike glyphs, but they aren't as good)

My favorite rotation for single target dps: Arms warriors are all bout proc's, there isn't really a set rotation. I like to Charge, Rend, Mort Strike, Slam, Execute, Overpower, Mort Stike, then Bladestorm. If you have extra rage (60-100) you want to spam heroic strike until you drop around 20-30. I like to use Heroic stike after a slam while your using your procs. On dummy I do more dps with this priority: Execute>Overpower>Mort Strike> Slam/Heroic Strike. Find what works best for you! Download addon Recount and play on the dummy in IF for a hour. Tip: refresh Rend right after if falls off and stack 5 Sunders if you dont have a warrior tank on boss fights.

Max DPS for multipal targets: Spam cleave inbetween procs. Make sure you use sweeping strikes. If there are more than 4 targets use a Thunder Clap! (1-2k dps for every target you hit) After you apply rend and use a couple overpower and exe procs, then you can hit bladestorm. Wait for your tank to build aggro before you hit BladeStorm! Some boss fights you want to wait to use Bladestorm when adds come out. You need to time your bladestorm on most fights well.

Stats: STACK ArP!!! I dont care even if you have 0 ArP rating. ArP>Str>Crit>Haste. The more ArP you get, the better it becomes. Of course, first you want to be hit capped with a decent amount of expertise before you start stacking ArP I am not hit capped but I am close (7.7% hit, 5.5% expertise) Don't stop stacking ArP until you hit 100% ArP. 84% from gear/gems, then 16% from battle stance w/ T9 bonus. Tip= Use Hearty rhino meat for 3% ArP!

Gear: I prefer using a axe for pve for the Crit Bonus. I like the 2 set bonus from t9. I dont think the 4 set bonus is worth losing other stats from better gear. Get the 75 badge helm from doing dailies/ToC. Get the t9 shoulders and legs (or gloves) first. Easy trinkets to get are the Greatness Card and Banner of Victory. If you need hit rating grab the Grim Toll or Pyrite Infuser.

Grim Toll or Mjolnir Runetone? These trinket are L33T if you have 50% or less ArP. If you can get over 70% ArP w/out using GT or Mjolnir then I would ditch them for Banner of Victory + ToC trinket or Greatness card.

Professions: Debatable but I like Jewel Crafting and Blacksmithing. JC for three +34 gems and BS for the 2 extra sockets. These 2 professions can give you +82 extra of your desired stat. EX. +82 ArP = 6% ArP

Gems/Sockets: Stack ArP gems. Some gear you might want to get socket bonus, but usually not worth losing the ArP.

Enchants:
Weapon- Executioner is the 2nd best enchant for arms warriors. Beserking is #1. Executioner will give you roughly around 10% ArP on proc. It procs just as much as bezerking (400 AP). I have seen executioner do more dps than zerking, but that is only if your sitting at 80-90% ArP and exe proc brings you close 100%. If you have less than 80% or more than 90% ArP I wouldnt touch executioner, unless you really just like how it looks

Download Landsoul's spreadsheet or download Rawr! Another good resouce is MaxDPS.com - World of Warcraft Gear Rankings - News Hope These tips helped you improze your game. Let me know if you have any questions or commments.

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Old 09/17/09, 4:35 AM   #8116
Longshot
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Azgalor
oh

Thanks for the quick feed back. Sad now I wasted my points on this.

Will see if Spark drops tonight in Uld

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Old 09/17/09, 5:11 AM   #8117
Compute
 
Undead Warlock
 
Draenor (EU)
Sooooo .. how is affl doing in uld hm's and toc? im using affl atm and is always at least on top5 on dps .

Dest is better, I know, but what about the t9 set4 bonus? will we be able to get closer to em? Or should u go dest if u want to perform well in those raids?

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Old 09/17/09, 8:08 AM   #8118
Kagura
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Vek'nilash (EU)
Originally Posted by ManOfSorrow View Post
my main though is should i spend my badges on the sigil of virulence and save up for a trophy or buy the forth piece of tir9 to get the 4 set bonus. which is disease to crit. And Im not sure if that is really great, cause they dont say at what % the crit is for?
The 4 piece bonus is not working atm, spent a whole night of hardmodes in TotC without one single crit. I believe the issue will be solved in 3.2.2.

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Old 09/17/09, 11:47 AM   #8119
Airdawg
 
Draenei Warrior
 
Alterac Mountains
Help me get to 7k DPS

The NEW Cookie Cutter Arms Warrior

Got my warrior to pull over 6k dps. Let me know if you have any suggestions to help me hit 7k. This is my Arms Warrior in a nutshell... 100% ArP w/out trinket proc, 40% Crit, 3700Ap unbuffed.

My Gear
This isn't BIS but it is best I can do w/ my setup.
[Conqueror's Siegebreaker Helmet]
[Broach of the Wailing Night]
[Wrynn's Shoulderplates of Conquest]
[Drape of the Drakerider]
[Conqueror's Siegebreaker Battleplate]
[Bitter Cold Armguards]
[Archon Glaive]
[The Diplomat]
[Gloves of Bitter Reprisal]
[Belt of the Betrayed]
[Wrynn's Legplates of Triumph]
[Boots of Living Scale]
[Dexterous Brightstone Ring]
[Planestalker Signet]
[Pyrite Infuser]
[Banner of Victory]

Spec
55/8/8. Tip=1-2 points in arms tree for weapon mastery. 8 points in Prot tree for 15% extra HS/cleave Crit. This spec is way better dps than 54/17 IMO.

Glyphs
Mortal Strike, Execute, Rend

Proc priority
Exe>OP>MS

Single target Rotation
Charge, Rend, Mort Strike, Slam, Execute, Overpower, then wait for OP/EXE procs. Use Heroic Strike inbetween procs if rage > 60.

Multipal target Rotation
Spam cleave inbetween procs. Make sure you use sweeping strikes. Pop Bladestorm when trash is 50%. Pro Tip= if more than 4 targets spam Thunder Clap!

Stat
STACK ArP till they break it! I dont care even if you have 0 ArP rating. ArP>Str>Crit>Haste. Don't stop stacking ArP until you hit 100% ArP. 84% passive, then 16% from battle stance. Pro Tip= Use Hearty rhino meat for 3% ArP!

Grim Toll and Mjolnir Runetone
These trinket are L33T if you have 50% or less ArP. Once you can get 80% ArP then save them for PVP. Banner of Victory + Greatness is the best. 100% ArP is ten times better than 50% ArP + 50% proc.

Executioner vs Beserking
Executioner is 2nd best enchant. It looks sexy, and its cheap. Only enchant Executioner if your ArP is 80-90% though. Dont touch it otherwise. 99% of the time Beserking is going to put out more dps!

Professions
Jewel Crafting and Blacksmithing. These 2 professions can give you +82 extra of your desired stat. EX. +82 ArP = 6% ArP

Axe vs Mace vs Sword
AXE FTW!!! Don't spec mace or sword unless you dont have a good polearm or axe.

Thanks for reading. I know not everything is new info here, but its a nice post with a lot of good info in one spot. Check me out. Airdawg on Alterac Mountains. Feel free to whisper me or leave a comment below. Hope you kick some butt!

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Last edited by Airdawg : 09/17/09 at 12:17 PM. Reason: wanted to add gear

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Old 09/17/09, 11:53 AM   #8120
Mastashake
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Nazgrel
I see that many of you are talking about switching out Treants and ISS for Typhoon. My spec is currently the top raiding spec and I manage to push out over 6500 DPS in 10 man raids, even higher in 25s. I am glyphed for improved Starfall, MF, and Starfire. This maximizes my DPS as I am using my Wrath to proc my Lunar Eclipse. Everytime my Starfall is up I pop it and am hitting 1300 crits while my Starfire hits 17k and my MF ticks for 3200 a tick. Here is a link to my spec. I am specced out of Gale Winds because no boss fights require AOE....Those 2 points along with the 1 in moonglow all went to Genesis for that extra boost.

Mastashake <The Chosen Elite> Nazgrel

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Old 09/17/09, 12:09 PM   #8121
mcam31132008
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Steamwheedle Cartel
Profiles on the spread sheet

edited



resolved my issue sorry for the random post of nothingness.

Last edited by mcam31132008 : 09/17/09 at 12:24 PM.

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Old 09/17/09, 12:53 PM   #8122
drxyron
 
Undead Warlock
 
Sylvanas (EU)
?

Originally Posted by Melbuframa View Post
4-piece T9 does not effect conflag damage. Initial post is in the simcraft thread http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-s...6/#post1383826

I can confirm it with my own data.
any chance this got fixed with the latest hot-fix ? anybody got any new intel ?

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Old 09/17/09, 1:02 PM   #8123
thiouk
Banned
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Lightbringer
I've recently had a chance to get the Stormrune Edge and would also be purchasing the Relentless Gladiator's Greatsword. I then played around in LandSoul's DPS calculation spreadsheet and it had ranked pretty much every Uld25 two hander ahead of the Greatsword. Is this accurate? I thought the sheer dps on the weapon would trump the lack of stats.

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Old 09/17/09, 1:28 PM   #8124
tbsp
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Andorhal
Originally Posted by Caniki View Post
Glyph if Claw is useful, until you learn Mangle.
Followed by 25 levels with no glyph worth using! That is, unless you dps instances (mangle, rip) or tank instances (maul).

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Old 09/17/09, 2:53 PM   #8125
MooIsTheOwn
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Drak'Tharon
Horde Best In Slot Equivalents

This is an EXACT replica of Landsoul's best in slot hardmode list for horde items. It contains no deviation from what he allocates as Best in Slot for horde warriors to reference. If deemed redundant I apologize and will take my infractions, but if found useful please feel free to paste this into Landsoul's initial post and delete this one. I will try to update as Landsoul changes his if this post is left here.

Best in Slot Hardmode set, HORDE item names, ***POST-ARP NERF***
Arms may do more single target damage due to being able to passive cap ArP at the cost of expertise.
SlotFuryArms
Head[Hellscream's Helmet of Triumph][Hellscream's Helmet of Triumph]
Neck[Charge of the Eredar][Collar of Unending Torment]
Shoulder[Hellscream's Shoulderplates of Triumph][Hellscream's Shoulderplates of Triumph]
BackSylvanas' Cunning (Heroic)Sylvanas' Cunning (Heroic)
Chest[Hellscream's Battleplate of Triumph][Hellscream's Battleplate of Triumph]
Wrist[Boneshatter Vambraces] (Heroic)Bracers of the Silent Massacre (Heroic)
HandsGauntlets of Bitter Reprisal (Heroic)[Hellscream's Gauntlets of Triumph]
WaistWaistguard of Deathly Dominion (Heroic)/2. Bloodbath Girdle (Heroic)Waistguard of Deathly Dominion (Heroic)
Legs[Hellscream's Legplates of Triumph]Leggings of the Lurking Threat (Heroic)
Feet1.Greaves of the Saronite Citadel (Heroic)/2.Greaves of Ruthless Judgement (Heroic)1.Greaves of the Saronite Citadel Heroic)
Ring1[Ring of the Violent Temperament][Gormok's Band]
Ring2[Band of Callous Aggression]A.[Brann's Signet Ring]/H.[Planestalker Band]
Trinket1[Death's Choice] [Death's Choice]
Trinket2[Death's Choice]/[Mjolnir Runestone][Death's Choice]
Weapon[Dual-blade Butcher] x2[Dual-blade Butcher]
Ranged[Death's Head Crossbow][Frenzystrike Longbow]/[Twirling Blades]

Last edited by MooIsTheOwn : 09/17/09 at 3:27 PM. Reason: Clarification

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