Sorry if this was asked before, but just got the drop.

I have the below trinkets, what would be better for a geared Ret Pally?

WoW Heroes - World of Warcraft PvE character info & ratings

Greatness Card
Mirror of Truth
Banner of Victory

I currently use Greatness & Mirror of Truth. I am wondering if Mirror & Banner would be better together in 10/25 man Raids.

Let me know your comments.

Thanks

I'm betting the answer you'll get most is to check Rawr and see which is better for your setup. With the T9 2piece fixed and ArP nerfed in 3.2.2 I would imagine banner wouldn't be in the running but again, should check for yourself. Greatness is still better than both for any conceivable setup I would think.

Of course I will when I get home, but I am betting my current setup is the best in Rawr.

However I was reading today that these trinket proc together, so I was hoping someone tried this already and had an opinion as to which is better. (at least till the next patch)

My rogue is a new alt I raced to 80. I am enjoying it alot. I have been reading the forums here for the last week and am hoping someone can help me optimize. My main is an intrigal part or my guilds raiding so my rogue will not get alot of easy gear. My priority is to maximize my DPS with my lower gear level. I lucked out on some good wepons, although my offhand dagger is not an ideal speed. I have a very limited access to excel at the moment and some of my gear is not included on the spreadsheets. My question: as you can see by my armory I have poor trinkets and off pieces. I had been gemming for hit which after reading I now understand is not optimal. From what i am gathering I should probably be gemming for AP until my gear is at a high end level (Arp) or I pick up T8 4set (agil). prior to the 2 weapons I just picked up. I was using the Mace from HTOC with bezerk and the Papper cutter with mongoose. Should I use the same enchants? Any advice would be very helpful as I don't want to get laughed out of ulduar pugs. Any of the spreadsheet savy posters know what kind of DPS this setup should produce?

I've been lurking for awhile, figured it was about time for me to post and show my scrubbyness.

For the most part I wanna think i've been pulling my own weight...... but I still think its a bit low =/

I am just barely under haste soft cap and I a little over crit cap for lunar. I have about 150ish latency in raids, but my fps can drop down to like 10 in some times and it gets messy.

I just don't feel like I am where I should be. I average close to 6k during most raid fights, pushing over 6k on fights that give dps buffs and such. In 10m I am averaging around 5.4k+

Here's the current spec I'm using. The World of Warcraft Armory

With all this talk about taking IS out of the rotation I'm pretty curious. I see that some people have taken their glyph of IS out and replaced with starfall, I dunno if thats a dps upgrade or what. I have no clue how to use rawr . I don't have problems with mana atm. I just recently got my 2pc t9, chest helm, so I dunno if I should respec to pick up imp MF.

So I have a question. I've been useing landsouls spreadsheet with a trial verson of excell but now that it is expired I can not change the value of arp to see if it is better to gem for arp or not. At the moment I'am sitting at 75% arp passive 6 str gems to replace with arp gems. Just wondering since I have so much arp and can still be hit caped and expertise caped if it would be worth it to full on gem for arp or gem for str. I kno that at this moment its best for me to gem for str but iam talking 3.2.2. Thanks in advance for any tips.

So i just recently switched to mutilate. And was wondering if anyone has a good rotation i could try out..mine is good about 3600 dps on ?? target dummy..armory seigle if u want to check out my gear..

True i use the same method Thairne does. Buy low sell high...made 2k already in 2 weeks. and thats without selling any of my own mats

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

For example: 2nd boss in Coleseum-25 normal.
Other DK: 4 place - 8189 dps
I'm: 7 place. - 7478 dps.
Im not understand why my DPS low? My and other DK use identical dps rotation. Help plz.
This situation on other fight's too.

Im think about: may be he use DRW+Hysterya on Grim Toll proc? Im don't have this trinket and can't test it.



PS: Sorry my bad english.

Is it worth getting Mjolnir, when my 2 trinkets are Death's Choice and Greatness? I'm at ~350 ArP, fully gemmed for agility.

I suffered the same in 10-man.
Personally I believe it might have to do with our big nukes are cooldown based. A Mage for instance can 'just' cast another of his main nukes. We on the other hand might not have ES up and if we do, it might not get up again before the portal is dead. And our usually big contributor to things like this, Kill Shot often won't hit the target in time (flighttime here), or it pops up in the middle of a Steady Shot. At least that was how I felt that part of the fight was for me.

I just hope that, a month down the road, some blue doesn't posts "Yeah some really lame players decided to abuse a technical difficulty we were having to use both the normal and heroic mode version of items at the same time despite this obviously being unintended. Sure sucks to be them now though, because we're going to totally screw them over by making it impossible to equip both at the same time anymore, and they deserve what they're getting for violating the spirit of our brilliant, logical and intuitive new normal/heroic mode item system." Because they're good at making their changes sound very reasonable even when they're not.

As it is now they are easily best in slot, and I am going to pick up both as soon as they drop, but the amount of people who'd get pissed off inside the guild if they were changed so that I can't equip both at the same time wouldn't be limited to just myself, if you know what I mean.

Why would you do that? The safest solution (and this applies to Death's Verdict as well) is to make sure everyone capable of using it has at least one before starting to hand out duplicates to the same person. Sorry, but that just reeks of selfishness and ignorance to take two before anyone else.

It only drops on the 10 man version of Razorscale

Not just that, but in the event it gets reverted to unique by name, then you just screwed your guild out of 1 of the trinkets (which I think you realize, but obviously don't care).

Oops my bad I wasn't precise enough, Razor downed at least 15 times in 10-man. For an item with 20% droprate (cf Wowhead)... I just don't understand

Fireball Mage Vs Moonkin + other classes for [Reign of the Unliving]

Would a good, key arguement point be that since fireball mages have Enpowered Fire talent (increases dmg of fireball by an amount equal to 15% of your spellpower) while moonkin's Lunar Guidance talent (increases spellpower by 12% your the total intellect) means that fireball mages will benefit alot more from the trinket? Although I've been told by our moonkin that he crits lot more and his casts are shorter, which means building motes faster?

How would you argue for this trinket in favour of mages over other classes?

What is the current consensus on socket bonuses?

I believe the current impression is that haste and spellpower are typically worth going for, int, spirit, and stamina are not, and crit is in between.

I am debating between a +23 and a +12/+10 in a yellow socket, with +4 crit bonus.

So, I may have missed it - but since the Glyph of LT has been buffed, should that replace one of my current glyphs? Running destro atm. I saw some people recommend replacing Glyph of Immolate with the LT Glyph now. Was there data to support that yet?

How would this change effect the usefulness of speccing into ISL? Seems like picking up the LT Glyph would allow me to drop those ISL talent points and maybe shoot for the grim reach?

Thoughts?

-Stinkiepete

First of all thanks for everyone for all the wonderful information here.
Second i have a question on enchants i have looked and bin unable to find an answer sorry if its bin asked already.

Is Berserking / Berserking double stacking the enchant and canceling each other out ? or is Berserking / Mongoose a better option?

I could go into great detail about guild politics, but I won't bore you with that - suffice to say all but two of our competent reliable healers have left the game for various reasons and both of them are paladins who swear by int and loudly proclaim spell power to be a "wasted stat" for "lesser classes". I already passed on the normal mode to a trial who prompty left for Tarren Mill because apparently that's where Ensidia is now. In any case, how is this relatively unique situation interesting to talk about at all?

The Berserking enchant can double stack. They will not cancel each other out. Double Berserking is the way to go until very end-game gear... and even then, Double Berserking out preforms Double Mongoose or Berserking/Mongoose... with Mongoose, you just gain a little more defensive stats; which most people would take for such a small dps difference.